Originally posted by TheDecider
Idk why you think he can put Juggernaut into another dimension... and Juggernaut would find his way back with the shield. Trion juggernaut wanted to get through to another dimension. Im sure if Juggernaut focused hard enough he get get enough power to come back with his shield.
Then why hadn't he the other times he's been trapped in this mini dimension or that?
Trion Juggs had all of Cytorraks power, are you are saying that a Classic Juggs can duplicate that?
Originally posted by Dalakit is when the fukers stuck in the ground. and he caught it on his back, but youd think wouldnt that seriously hurt him?
So you think it's easier to pick up a 50 lb wieght thats right next to you than to catch one dropped from even 10 feet over your head? 🙄How about you test that for us and after you awaken from the coma we can debate some more. 😈
Originally posted by DalakOnce again the poinbt is that he has beter durability than any of us and that he was allowed to use his entire body meaning the tension in his body to absorb the impact.
If it was set on his back gently, I would agree with you, but when the mountain is about 2 miles tall and dropped from it's hieght over you that's an entirely different situation.BB seems to want to ignore that.
there is a difference between actually standing there and lifting the weight than simply bracing the weight. People can brace more weight than they can lift.
Originally posted by newjak86
Really well the problem with that is we don't have the same durability as these guys so that is flawed because the weight falling on Hulk was only Rock and therefore wouldn't KO him.
He didn't get KOed but there was more force behind that than if he deadlifted it and that's been teh point I've been trying to make this entire time.
And now are you denying that as well?
Originally posted by TheDecider
Bloodlust as in they fight to the best of there ability and use there powers to the most, but hulk still starts off calm. you admit he CAN do it. Thats why i give him only 1/10 for it. How about 1/100 there 99/10 stalemate Juggs still gets 1 more than hulk does.
Who says he starts calm? How the hell can you be bloodlusted AND perfectly calm? That makes no sense. Bloodlusts = raging mad pissed Hulk. Period.
Now if the rules were like Juggernaut is bloodlusted and Hulk is calm, I'd reconsider the situation, but even then it's iffy. Is Hulk expecting Juggernaut? If so, he's not going to remain calm for long.
Originally posted by bigbran
it is when the fukers stuck in the ground. and he caught it on his back, but youd think wouldnt that seriously hurt him?
and you know how unbeleivable it would be for hulk to lift 150 billion tons of mountain.
you havent answered my question, hulk can now lift 150 billion tons of mountain?
You give Hulk enough time and he can lift anything. So yes.
If you put a calm hulk there and give him a 2 minute time limit wihtout agravating him in any way, No.
If you do the same but constantly berate him and tell him how Betty thinks he's weak and that his Daddy knew that he'd never be able to do it? I dunno.
Originally posted by newjak86
Once again the poinbt is that he has beter durability than any of us and that he was allowed to use his entire body meaning the tension in his body to absorb the impact.there is a difference between actually standing there and lifting the weight than simply bracing the weight. People can brace more weight than they can lift.
I understand what you mean, but iff he could hold the weight of the mountain he should be able to lift it, iff you try to lift something but you couldn't wouldn't you get angry.
So he would be able to lift it.
Originally posted by DalakWhat I'm saying is that he wasn't actually lifting the weight a person can brace more weight than they can actually lift because they can now use the tension in their muscles to resist the weight instead of actually moving the weight. That is the point.
He didn't get KOed but there was more force behind that than if he deadlifted it and that's been teh point I've been trying to make this entire time.And now are you denying that as well?
Originally posted by Dalak
You give Hulk enough time and he can lift anything. So yes.If you put a calm hulk there and give him a 2 minute time limit wihtout agravating him in any way, No.
If you do the same but constantly berate him and tell him how Betty thinks he's weak and that his Daddy knew that he'd never be able to do it? I dunno.
Strength is not the problem. The Hulk has that in spades. This is about position and grip.
Originally posted by newjak86
Once again the poinbt is that he has beter durability than any of us and that he was allowed to use his entire body meaning the tension in his body to absorb the impact.there is a difference between actually standing there and lifting the weight than simply bracing the weight. People can brace more weight than they can lift.
I agree with the second paragraph, but that's not exatly what's happening here.
His durability would allow him to survive being hit witht he Mountain but not give him the strength to brace it, especially a falling mountain of that size.
Originally posted by Dalakand my point. a little bit enraged hulk cant do it. he cant lift it with some enraged emotions, therefore he cant do it. he needs to go hulk smash hard to be able to do it.
You give Hulk enough time and he can lift anything. So yes.If you put a calm hulk there and give him a 2 minute time limit wihtout agravating him in any way, No.
If you do the same but constantly berate him and tell him how Betty thinks he's weak and that his Daddy knew that he'd never be able to do it? I dunno.
Originally posted by bigbran
and my point. a little bit enraged hulk cant do it. he cant lift it with some enraged emotions, therefore he cant do it. he needs to go hulk smash hard to be able to do it.
you seem to ignore the fact that comics dont follow physics.
Still the lifting argument is besides the point: Catching a falling wieght is more impressive than lifting one.
Originally posted by Dalak
He's picked up and swam under a mountainous island and picked up 2 fortresses form a corner and had them stay intact. Hulk Smash PHysics!!!
I know, but that's not quite the same. He had the water to aid him. He can lift it, there's no doubt, but only if the mass of the mountain was to be compressed to the size of something much smaller. Without leverage(or the ability to fly!), it's extremely hard to lift anything that big. Again, this has nothing to do with strength.
Originally posted by Dalakmaybe for a human. but the mountain was bigger, it would be easier to lift a bigger object on your back then a little 50 pound weight.
Still the lifting argument is besides the point: Catching a falling wieght is more impressive than lifting one.