Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Trion Juggernaut was also possessed. And I'm not buying for a minute that he can reach those levels all by himself. The 8th day saga had Juggernaut saying this:

"That's right!

Something is making me that way....Something is drawing me towards hims"

Now, this strongly (STRONGLY!) implies that that something that was calling him was also making him more powerful. It's just the way it was written, man.

You make no sence

How Can Cyttorak grant Juggernaut more power when he can call upon the limitless power of Cyttorak anyway?

Just because somethings drawing you somewhere it doesn't make you possessed. I'm draw to go get a pizza, doesn't make me possessed if I get up and get one.

Yes Cain can reach Trion lv's. Trion Juggernaut was possessed by Cyttorak to go destroy the Trion, Cyytoraks mortal enemies. What's stopping Cain from asking Cyytorak for that much power to destroy the Hulk?

Originally posted by Sea King
the reasion he became that strong was because he is unstopable meaning if he absalutly has to get somewere then he will by anymeans.

He had to get there. And to get there, he may have needed more power. But that Doesn't mean he received this power because he wanted to. He got it because Cyttorak wanted him to be more powerful.

That's what's being implied here.

just saying hulk isnt invincible.
why is this thread still going?
first of all juggs is above hulks base strength.
juggs is more durible. and hulk doesnt becum so durible that he cant get hurt in the time its going to take to tee off on hulk.

personly, i think juggs takes it 6/10, but you guys wont even accept one win, so heres how it goes.

so we know hulk becums more durible, with anger, he becums stronger too. ok sure.
we know hulk has tooken some shots by thor, to little to no effect. yes, here now think of something. what was he when he took those shots?
mindless, now how long does it take to becum mindless?
a long f*cking time!!
and he started the fight as mindless, and what does he start as in this fight? normal, thats right!!
now lets look at a strength feat for juggs.
knocking stranger down with one hit, and looking like he koed him.
stranger was out, sure he got up, but he was rocked.
and that feat also showed his jumping ability.
juggs strength, matters in this fight, hulks unfortunlatly does not.
sure he can throw him around, but he not taking some serious shots by juggs. how many people have duked it out with hulk?
and saying juggs couldnt is either:

a) fantoyish.
b) underating.

hell rhino has hurt hulk, but juggs cant?!!?!?

so unless you can prove, hulk cant be koed, or hurt when hes enraged, this arguement is over!
im using this until someone responds.

Ummm doesn't Cain like not get along with him. And does he do it on a regular basis if not then its a character trait no reason it should be changed for this fight. I've seen Juggs bloodlusted plenty of times and not go trion.

Rhino hurting Hulk was SMvsFL

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You make no sence

How Can Cyttorak grant Juggernaut more power when he can call upon the limitless power of Cyttorak anyway?

Just because somethings drawing you somewhere it doesn't make you possessed. I'm draw to go get a pizza, doesn't make me possessed if I get up and get one.

Yes Cain can reach Trion lv's. Trion Juggernaut was possessed by Cyttorak to go destroy the Trion, Cyytoraks mortal enemies. What's stopping Cain from asking Cyytorak for that much power to destroy the Hulk?

NO ONE CAN BEAT AN ANGRY HULK NO ONE!!!

Originally posted by Dinalfos
He had to get there. And to get there, he may have needed more power. But that Doesn't mean he received this power because he wanted to. He got it because Cyttorak wanted him to be more powerful.

That's what's being implied here.

weather its implied or not cyttorak is his source so if he thinks juggs wont be able to do what he is doing he will just give him more power and that is what that proves.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You make no sence

How Can Cyttorak grant Juggernaut more power when he can call upon the limitless power of Cyttorak anyway?

Just because somethings drawing you somewhere it doesn't make you possessed. I'm draw to go get a pizza, doesn't make me possessed if I get up and get one.

Yes Cain can reach Trion lv's. Trion Juggernaut was possessed by Cyttorak to go destroy the Trion, Cyytoraks mortal enemies. What's stopping Cain from asking Cyytorak for that much power to destroy the Hulk?

And that's what I'm debating. I really don't think Juggernaut can increase his strength all by himself. At least Marvel isn't doing much to verify the "current"general consensus (speaking 1994) of the HQ's. The text box clearly implied that the he was needed and made more powerful.

Cyttorak chose to possess Juggernaut, thus granting him full power. But that doesn't mean he's gonna get it. So far, none of the major power ups for Juggernaut are entirely due to his own will power.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
And that's what I'm debating. I really don't think Juggernaut can increase his strength all by himself. At least Marvel isn't doing much to verify the "current"general consensus (speaking 1994) of the HQ's. The text box clearly implied that the he was needed and made more powerful.

Cyttorak chose to possess Juggernaut, thus granting him full power. But that doesn't mean he's gonna get it. So far, none of the major power ups for Juggernaut are entirely due to his own will power.

Err Hulk cant either, He needed Jeans help to mindwipe him. 😉

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Err Hulk cant either, He needed Jeans help to mindwipe him. 😉

Wipe mind him.....into the Savage Hulk.....Because he wasn't Savage Hulk.

Really, all Jean did was bring up Classic Hulk.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
And that's what I'm debating. I really don't think Juggernaut can increase his strength all by himself. At least Marvel isn't doing much to verify the "current"general consensus (speaking 1994) of the HQ's. The text box clearly implied that the he was needed and made more powerful.

Cyttorak chose to possess Juggernaut, thus granting him full power. But that doesn't mean he's gonna get it. So far, none of the major power ups for Juggernaut are entirely due to his own will power.

Through Focus he can increase his strength. Cyttorak just grants him more, and more power until Cain fells that his deed is done. Marvel said it, I gave you comic proof why are you still debating against it?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Wipe mind him.....into the Savage Hulk.....Because he wasn't Savage Hulk.

Really, all Jean did was bring up Classic Hulk.

just saying hulk isnt invincible.
why is this thread still going?
first of all juggs is above hulks base strength.
juggs is more durible. and hulk doesnt becum so durible that he cant get hurt in the time its going to take to tee off on hulk.

personly, i think juggs takes it 6/10, but you guys wont even accept one win, so heres how it goes.

so we know hulk becums more durible, with anger, he becums stronger too. ok sure.
we know hulk has tooken some shots by thor, to little to no effect. yes, here now think of something. what was he when he took those shots?
mindless, now how long does it take to becum mindless?
a long f*cking time!!
and he started the fight as mindless, and what does he start as in this fight? normal, thats right!!
now lets look at a strength feat for juggs.
knocking stranger down with one hit, and looking like he koed him.
stranger was out, sure he got up, but he was rocked.
and that feat also showed his jumping ability.
juggs strength, matters in this fight, hulks unfortunlatly does not.
sure he can throw him around, but he not taking some serious shots by juggs. how many people have duked it out with hulk?
and saying juggs couldnt is either:

a) fantoyish.
b) underating.

hell rhino has hurt hulk, but juggs cant?!!?!?

so unless you can prove, hulk cant be koed, or hurt when hes enraged, this arguement is over!
im using this until someone responds.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Through Focus he can increase his strength. Cyttorak just grants him more, and more power until Cain fells that his deed is done. Marvel said it, I gave you comic proof why are you still debating against it?

Because no one is allowed to be stronger then Hulk.

Editors>>>>>>>>Feats>>>>>handbooks.

Does he do it normally if not than it is a character trait not something that should change for this fight just because you want him to win. I mean I've seen Hulk thunder clap black holes shut doesn't mean he does it all of the time.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Because no one is allowed to be stronger then Hulk.

Editors>>>>>>>>Feats>>>>>handbooks.

Hulk>>>>>>>Editors>>>>>>>>Feats>>>>>handbooks.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Because no one is allowed to be stronger then Hulk.

Editors>>>>>>>>Feats>>>>>handbooks.

Ya well we undertsand, it's just the Hulk fanboys can't except it.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Through Focus he can increase his strength. Cyttorak just grants him more, and more power until Cain fells that his deed is done. Marvel said it, I gave you comic proof why are you still debating against it?

Cyttorak can CHOOSE to grant him more. Unfortunately for Juggernaut, Cyttie has his own will. What happens if Juggernaut disappoints him too much? 😆

Marvel also said that Captain America, while peak human, can outperform superhuman speed, strength and stamina with pure skill.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Cyttorak can CHOOSE to grant him more. Unfortunately for Juggernaut, Cyttie has his own will. What happens if Juggernaut disappoints him too much? 😆

Marvel also said that Captain America, while peak human, can outperform superhuman speed, strength and stamina with pure skill.

Err, he can, look at the spiderman fight!!!???

And if thats all you can muster. 😕

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52kOpUHkYD4 😖hifty: