Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Soujaboy486 pages

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Cyttorak can CHOOSE to grant him more. Unfortunately for Juggernaut, Cyttie has his own will. What happens if Juggernaut disappoints him too much? 😆

Marvel also said that Captain America, while peak human, can outperform superhuman speed, strength and stamina with pure skill.

How can you not understand that Juggernaut can increase his power through focus?

What happens if Cain chooses to dissapoint Cyttorak? have you not read Marvel comics in the last few years?

i like this ne better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69UBa_1EHhw&mode=related&search=

you guys are trying to say this guy is gonna beat juggs 😕

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfjJpVt2KSc

Originally posted by Sea King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52kOpUHkYD4 😖hifty:
😆

Originally posted by Soujaboy
How can you not understand that Juggernaut can increase his power through focus?

What happens if Cain chooses to dissapoint Cyttorak? have you not read Marvel comics in the last few years?

That question was rethorical.

Anyway, if Juggernaut can do it, then he's done a bad job of showing it. Even IF he can do it(which is possible), it would be a less than credible retcon.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
That question was rethorical.

Anyway, if Juggernaut can do it, then he's done a bad job of showing it. Even IF he can do it(which is possible), it would be a less than credible retcon.

When the **** did it become a retcon?

Dinalfos was quite correct in his assessment of that old Letters bit. This isn't the first time I've seen it nor is it the first time it's been misinterpreted by Juggs fans.

Juggernaut > The Professor

And though they said he could draw more power where is that shown outside of 2 obvious powerups (Trion - 8th Day when Cain Admitted he wasn't teh one making himself stronger) that hasn't been shown as far as I know.

Though as before this is the chance to bring the proof.

After watching "I'm The Juggernaut *****" I have changed my mind Juggs win just by being cooler.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3934651591022114445

Originally posted by Dalak
Dinalfos was quite correct in his assessment of that old Letters bit. This isn't the first time I've seen it nor is it the first time it's been misinterpreted by Juggs fans.

Juggernaut > The Professor

And though they said he could draw more power where is that shown outside of 2 obvious powerups (Trion - 8th Day when Cain Admitted he wasn't teh one making himself stronger) that hasn't been shown as far as I know.

Though as before this is the chance to bring the proof.

😐 Cain never makes himself stronger.

Originally posted by Dalak
Dinalfos was quite correct in his assessment of that old Letters bit. This isn't the first time I've seen it nor is it the first time it's been misinterpreted by Juggs fans.

Juggernaut > The Professor

And though they said he could draw more power where is that shown outside of 2 obvious powerups (Trion - 8th Day when Cain Admitted he wasn't teh one making himself stronger) that hasn't been shown as far as I know.

Though as before this is the chance to bring the proof.

Editors>>>>Feats>>>>>Handbooks.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Editors>>>>Feats>>>>>Handbooks.

They just don't get it 🙁

Originally posted by Black Dude
After watching "I'm The Juggernaut *****" I have changed my mind Juggs win just by being cooler.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3934651591022114445

Ignore that Juggernaut can increase strength with focus and say that it comes from outside help, but Hulks strength coming from another dimension isnt outside help. Thats how the hulk fans see this. If Juggernaut wants to KO hulk fast then he will KO hulk fast. The beginning of the fight he could just focus on killing hulk, if he does that then it will happen. He was focused on getting somewhere and Thor was like a fly to him. This can be proved that he does it all the time because he never struggles to do anything.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
They just don't get it 🙁

Its truly sad, The dismiss everything the editor says.

"Screw them guys, they only created own all the rights to the characters"

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Editors>>>>Feats>>>>>Handbooks.

HULK>>>>>>>>>Editors>>>>>>>>>>>Feats>>>>>>handbooks

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its truly sad, The dismiss everything the editor says.

"Screw them guys, they only created own all the rights to the characters"

"When the Hell did the editors get any say on what a characters powers are, the editors have no Idea what there talking about."

Originally posted by Black Dude

After watching "I'm The Juggernaut *****" I have changed my mind Juggs win just by being cooler.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...651591022114445

all ok well if your gonna change sides then i think you should at least give another reasion cause others might laugh at you 😉

just saying hulk isnt invincible.
why is this thread still going?
first of all juggs is above hulks base strength.
juggs is more durible. and hulk doesnt becum so durible that he cant get hurt in the time its going to take to tee off on hulk.

personly, i think juggs takes it 6/10, but you guys wont even accept one win, so heres how it goes.

so we know hulk becums more durible, with anger, he becums stronger too. ok sure.
we know hulk has tooken some shots by thor, to little to no effect. yes, here now think of something. what was he when he took those shots?
mindless, now how long does it take to becum mindless?
a long f*cking time!!
and he started the fight as mindless, and what does he start as in this fight? normal, thats right!!
now lets look at a strength feat for juggs.
knocking stranger down with one hit, and looking like he koed him.
stranger was out, sure he got up, but he was rocked.
and that feat also showed his jumping ability.
juggs strength, matters in this fight, hulks unfortunlatly does not.
sure he can throw him around, but he not taking some serious shots by juggs. how many people have duked it out with hulk?
and saying juggs couldnt is either:

a) fantoyish.
b) underating.

hell rhino has hurt hulk, but juggs cant?!!?!?

so unless you can prove, hulk cant be koed, or hurt when hes enraged, this arguement is over!
im using this until someone responds.

Ignore that Juggernaut can increase strength with focus and say that it comes from outside help, but Hulks strength coming from another dimension isnt outside help. Thats how the hulk fans see this. If Juggernaut wants to KO hulk fast then he will KO hulk fast. The beginning of the fight he could just focus on killing hulk, if he does that then it will happen. He was focused on getting somewhere and Thor was like a fly to him. This can be proved that he does it all the time because he never struggles to do anything.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So that 8th day on panel feat must have never happened.

What did Thor say? "His Might swelled a houndred fold"

Im sure that means nothing

You didn't even get to see what the Hulk did during the fight, so how do you know he's not Savage Hulk. That and he's still in the Savage Hulk attire.


Now THAT could easily be character hyperbole. However, if Marvel were to consistently say it for the next 20 years, then there would be no disputing it.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
But the general opinion at Marvel HQ, nearly all, say that Juggernaut is Stronger? 😕

So that makes it so, even though the writers have said otherwise in comics and with feats?
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Remember, they choose to ignore and accept what they want!! 😉

Apparently, they're not the only ones. rolleyes1
Originally posted by Sea King
and magic>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then increasing as if you were a human amped to extream levels.

Not in comics, my friend.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Any Proof that his Durability is always on par with his strength.

I've posted proof that his durability rises with his anger as well as his strength. If you want to see it, it's in the Thor vs Hulk thread Soujaboy made.
Originally posted by bigbran
bloodlust? no a bloodlust has to be stated, otherwise we'd have surfer killing everyone he fights or almost.
its best of there ability, which means, a normal showing for hulk, and an actual good showing for juggs.

We DO have Surfer killing every body he fights.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
No it's bloodlust, which means Juggernaut can reach Trion lv's early on in the fight.

Trion Juggernaut was possessed.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
You make no sence

How Can Cyttorak grant Juggernaut more power when he can call upon the limitless power of Cyttorak anyway?

Just because somethings drawing you somewhere it doesn't make you possessed. I'm draw to go get a pizza, doesn't make me possessed if I get up and get one.

Yes Cain can reach Trion lv's. Trion Juggernaut was possessed by Cyttorak to go destroy the Trion, Cyytoraks mortal enemies. What's stopping Cain from asking Cyytorak for that much power to destroy the Hulk?


Calling upon more power from a demon god could still arguably be outside help.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Editors>>>>>>>>Feats>>>>>handbooks.

And who writes the feats, as well as the constant statements of who is stronger? You're basing your whole argument that Cain is stronger off of the opinion of some editors rather than the writers and feats. That's not the best way to debate.
Originally posted by TheDecider
Ignore that Juggernaut can increase strength with focus and say that it comes from outside help, but Hulks strength coming from another dimension isnt outside help. Thats how the hulk fans see this. If Juggernaut wants to KO hulk fast then he will KO hulk fast. The beginning of the fight he could just focus on killing hulk, if he does that then it will happen. He was focused on getting somewhere and Thor was like a fly to him. This can be proved that he does it all the time because he never struggles to do anything.

I told you his strength doesn't come from another dimension. This is more proof that no one really reads what I type.

He won't KO Hulk fast because Hulk will also be bloodlusted. You can't say Cain will be focused for some random reason while Hulk will be calm. It doesn't work that way. ❌