Ultimate Hulk vs. Ultimate Juggernaut
Okay, kind've the same topic that's been running for almost 50 pages, with this little twist, in which in which in the Ultimate universe this or may not be a more fair bout. What do you guys think? (I think this requires a little knowledge of the Hulk and Juggernaut's Ultimate counterparts of course)
Come on now, I know it's the same charactors, but different circumstances. It's in the Ultimate universe, where they both have different histories, different meanings to gaining their powers, and Juggernaut's a MUTANT in this one, not just magically powerful. If y'all serouisly don't wanna do this one then cool, we'll end it here, I just figured since no one's really brought this up, cause it is a different situation and practically different individuals, then someone might wanna think about it. That's just my view on it though.
ummmmmmm juggy isnt a mutant. amd by his own admission he's getting weaker bynthe day cuz he pissed off cytorrak(by going inside the gem and beating his ass) so cytorrak withdrew his power from him, rendering him half of what he used to be(still strong as hell though) but not enough to beat ultimate hulk
Originally posted by manjaro
ummmmmmm juggy isnt a mutant. amd by his own admission he's getting weaker bynthe day cuz he pissed off cytorrak(by going inside the gem and beating his ass) so cytorrak withdrew his power from him, rendering him half of what he used to be(still strong as hell though) but not enough to beat ultimate hulk
You're thinking of mainstream Juggernaut. The one I'm talking about is the Ultimate universe's version, who IS a mutant. He was a part of that world's Weapon X project along with Wolverine, Sabertooth, Rogue, Nightcrawler, and others until they were freed by Magneto and joined the Brotherhood.
It does or it doesn't. We could talk, discuss, debate and argue all day about this stuff. Not gonna make a bit of difference.
Looking at just the powers.. I know who'd I'd vote for. Hell, I've been saying it for days. It only seems logical to me given the information about each fighter. But others disagree, fine let them disagree. But it won't ever change my opinion. In my opinion Juggernaut is already the winner, he is afterall the only one to ever score a knockout in any of the fights they've had.
Originally posted by Tron
You're thinking of mainstream Juggernaut. The one I'm talking about is the Ultimate universe's version, who IS a mutant. He was a part of that world's Weapon X project along with Wolverine, Sabertooth, Rogue, Nightcrawler, and others until they were freed by Magneto and joined the Brotherhood.
my bad then
the simple fact the hulk has got the whole "gets madder with rage factor" he would probably win out in the end, but dont think that juggy is just gonna take it lying down. yes they've fought on many occasions. yes juggy scored a knock out in civvies but that was becuase hulk didnt know it wasnt a regular human so he didnt fight back.
all the other times they clashed it was shown to be long and brawn out, so i at least give juggy credit form that perspectve
Hulk is strong, I'll give'm that. But in a fight that's bound to go on and on, eventually it just comes down to durability and endurance. And Juggernaut's got'm beat in those areas. Anything Hulk can dish out, Juggernaut can take, and take, and take, and just keep dishing it right back. If Juggernaut weren't physically invulnerable, and if his endurance wasn't unlimited (from magicaly energies feeding him) then Hulk could wear him down over the course of a long battle. However, Juggernaut is physically invulnerable and won't take damage from Hulk's punches, and his endurance is limitless so he'll never wear out. Hulk's proven to get tired from long battles.. so the longer the fight drags out, the more likely Juggernaut is to win.
However, Hulk could always win by ring out, and throw Juggernaut so far away that he can't catch up with Hulk after he jumps off the opposite direction. So in that way, Hulk could win.. but just not by knock out.
That's my attempt at compromise, I addmitted there are ways they both could win in a fight if it weren't interupted (which is how it's always ended before).