It wasn't insulting at all. You are not yet a full adult, after all. You don't have a husband and possible family to support. I was simply pointing out that Mech has to put the needs of him and his loved ones as a priority against any very vague and dubious moral choice and this is NOT a position you are in, regardless of your upbringing. I am sorry if you are insulted but that is no fault of mine.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Why would u build one, with no intention to use it?!?! U build it to use it! so it seems everyone can be bought....
The politics of war are interesting. You use nukes to scare the bijebus out of people. The more you have the scarier and more powerful you appear. Just because we make more doesn't mean we intend on using them. We won't use them until it's absolutely necessary.
And plus while he's helping to build more sophisticated nuclear weapons, more are being destroyed each day. Our arsenol and Russia's arsenol are both supposed to be declining.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
i knew you are gonna say that....and this is internet mate, i could write whatever the hell i want i can be whoever i want...i can say im a Santa Claus, you wouldnt know!Mech good luck...with whatever you do!
And likewise I will act on what you write, so do not seem surprised or upset when I do. Which is also pretty simple. And I am pretty sure that is the truth, anyway.
Originally posted by 113
The politics of war are interesting. You use nukes to scare the bijebus out of people. The more you have the scarier and more powerful you appear. Just because we make more doesn't mean we intend on using them. We won't use them until it's absolutely necessary.
And plus while he's helping to build more sophisticated nuclear weapons, more are being destroyed each day. Our arsenol and Russia's arsenol are both supposed to be declining.
Hopefully they are declining! Its funny how different people view weapons and nuclear war and stuff....
Originally posted by Ushgarak
And likewise I will act on what you write, so do not seem surprised or upset when I do. Which is also pretty simple. And I am pretty sure that is the truth, anyway.
it is...it is true in fact, what i found interesting though is the fact that you judged how much of an adult i am by bu reading few lines.....
Actually, no I wasn't. I even specified that I was talking to anyone telling him not to take the job on ethcial grounds who were not facing the things he was. You immediately assumed I meant you in that, I dunno why. If you are so convinced you are an adult then I would have thought you would assume I was not talking to you.
As it is, you made a fuss, and from all the indications you have given to me I would include you in what I said. I am sorry, but there it is.
Meanwhile, please return this on topic. This really is not useful.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Hopefully they are declining! Its funny how different people view weapons and nuclear war and stuff....
not "hopefully"...it's a fact, they are. at least in the U.S. and Russia, a treaty was signed to start gradually destroying many of each nations nuclear weapons after the cold war ended. Last time i checked the U.S. was down to 9,000 something, and the Russians were down to 1200 something(not including the unaccounted ones).
First of all, the thoery is that they will not be used, not that they have no use. Their very presence is intended to have an effect. As I said, the argument about that would be long and highly unpleasant and not worth having.
Second, that statement is your view. It is not the view of a great many people, many people who think that production of nuclear weaponry has saved a staggering amount of lives.
Again, this is a complicated debate that is not suitable here, but to effectively accuse Mech with not valuing human life if he takes the job- which is the implication- is hardly fair.
No, by taking the job he might just be providing for himself. Morality need not enter into it. He is not personally responsible for anything related to a state's defence strategy.
After all, nearly everyone who is anti-capitalist still take jobs that back up the capitalist society. People who disagree with education policies still send their kids to school.
I have never believed in holding anyone ethically responsible for what their work relates to unless they are pioneers or innovators in that field. People are entitled to take jobs offered and available.