possible cloned characters

Started by R.C5 pages

To the earlier point about hiding, 2 Sith probably found it wasy to hide, it's a big gallaxy....

Quite. And I guess most of the time there was only one.

how do you know that the cloning technology was only used for the first time in ep2, i've noticed that the sw galaxy does not tend to improve technologically with time, also there are always two sith, no more, no less.

does the size of the galaxy really matter, ob1 sensed the sith on naboo while they were in corusscant, vader sensed luke on hoth god knows how far away.

Luke sensed Vader on Hoth???? What special edition have you been watching. he only sensed him at the end of ESB when they passed the SD and in ROTJ when they got clearance to Endor.

And OB1 never sensed the Sith on Naboo. He sensed something elusive on the TF ship. Not the Sith so much. Besides, it was more a feeling of the future than a presence.

Have to agree with Queeq on this Sand person no.10. Luke feelings for his father allowed Vader to sense him on the Super Star Destroyer and also in ROTJ their feelings for each other gave them away. This only happens when Luke dicovers that Vader is his father and not prior o this. Otherwise I am sure that Vader would have found him alot sooner.

It is also true that it is a huge galaxy, so the Sith are able to hide. But how are they able to hide in such close proximity t the JC? Who knows?!!

Will there be a new Sith apprentince in EP2? . Who will the new apprentince be? Won't it take time for Sidious to train a new apprentince? Bringing it back to topic will it be a clone of Maul?

i didn't say that luke sensed vader on hoth, i said that vader sensed luke on hoth, you're trying to tell me that just by seeing a picture of a power generator Vader could tell the rebels and Luke were there, as luke showed on dagaboh, it is possible to see the past present and future and that was when he was still training, vader was a master so who knows what he could see, perhaps you only need a catalyst to be able to see things, i.e. the power generator, a comment from Yoda

I'm not so sure Vader sensed Luke on Hoth. I think it was simple deduction. If there was a major rebel base on Hoth then he was "sure Skywalker is with them." Sounds like mere calculation of chance to me. Not a force sensing capability.

And sorry for misreading your post.

but as admiral Osle (whatever) said it could be anything, smugglers, settlements etc... Vader would have had to have something with force ability to feel, there is also his comment about him being sure that skywalker is with them.
if it was a simple deduction then perhaps after rotj vader should have thought about a job alongside sherlock holmes, there are thousand of planets, thousands of probes, thousands of reports and from one picture of a power generator he is able to deduce that the rebels are there, thats some detective work.

(don't worry about misreading the post, people have a hard enough time understanding what i'm on about at the best of times)

Well, that's still mere speculation. I think Vader could see more in that, he's been at it longer and I guess he figured it too much of a settlement to be anything else.
After all, Piett thought is was unordinary and Ozzel, well, Ozzel. Let me just quote Vader on Ozzel: "He is as clumsy as he is stupid." There you go.

Indeed. We have absolutely no reason to think that sensing of other Force Powers/Users even exists, let alone over such massive distances.

We know they can sense minds, is all, and that seems a very localised thing.

Vader's highly developed instincts may have served him well in discerning that place to be the Rebel Base, especially as it was probably a bad locatyion for any of the things silly old Ozzel mentioned.

But instinct would have been as far as it went, he was 'sensing' nothing, and then, as has been mentioned, it was simply logical to say that Skywalker was with them.

I think maybe the cloning might have something to do with Qui Gon Jinn because he didn't dissapear when he died like Jedi's usually do.

I have got to say, I was always under the impression that Vader "sensed" Luke on Hoth. It was the way everyone said "Vader, man. Your talking out your arse pal" but he was still dead certain that that was the base.

I do agree with Sand Person on the "catalyst" caper. Vader knew nothing of his offspring until he was a) told, or b) sensed it (when he read Lukes mind about Leia). That says to me that the Force can be triggered by an event, comment, image etc.

In otherwords, even if you do have the Force, if you don't know what you are looking for, you won't find it.

On the note of clones, I can't see Qui Gon Jinn being one.

There is another topic discussing that, I think

I think an "Elementary, my dear Admiral Ozzel" would apply best to Vader's conclusion that Luke and the Rebels were on Hoth. He was smarter. Heck even Piett concluded that this might be a rebel base. And that just based on a "fragment".

It is not that simple to conclude that:
"There are thousands of unknown settlements, it could be smugglers who..." Ozzle gets interupted by Vader.
So, I think that it is not that easy, Piet just knew what Vader was going to say so he would suck up a kittle to Vader

How come Obi-Wan didn't sense the evil of Chancelor Palpatine at the end of TPM?

So, we all know Ozzel was stupid. Vader said so, so everything he says is stupid. Even the smuggler's line.
Besides, not Vader but Piett interrupted Ozzel, saying: "But sir, then Hoth system is supposed to be devoid of human life."
I think..... you made me doubt now. 😄

Sorry, long time that I've seen ESB.
In the del rey book they explained it that vader saw a few speeders (the one that 'Fatty Fat' drove to find Luke and Han)
But don't waste your time, they aren't around in that scene of the movie.

Yes, Ozzel was incompetant, that is for sure.

That settles that then. 😈