yeah, i would like that discussion.
if god created us, who created god?
chicken and the egg??
same discussion??
food for thought.
and if god is the creator and ruler, why is he doing it? whats the point?
lets not talk about specific religion per say, just about where it (god/creation/universe/before god?) started...this cant be argued because no one knows or has even theorized about it.
might be interesting to hear some "opinions"
Originally posted by Darth Hater
if god does exist,then where did "it" come from and what is "its" purpose for creating usi would say amusement
Thus, if the universe is simply a "brute fact," and was not brought into existence by a purposeful, intelligent being, there can be no ultimate purpose for its existence. If nothing exists outside the universe then clearly, going back to the previously given definition of purpose, there can be no object or end for which the universe came into existence. The universe can only have some ultimate purpose if it was created by an intelligent being who, in fact, had some purpose in making it.
Who made god?
I assume that whatever exists requires a cause of its existence. But only what begins to exist requires a cause. The universe began to exist, therefore, the universe requires a cause of its existence. But then one can say that god never began to exist, so he would be eternal then.
If god exists, then he should be eternal. It is therefore unnecessary to posit a cause of his existence.
Let’ s say that god is the eternal, uncreated creator of all that exists, there could have been no one other than god who might have had a purpose for bringing him into existence. I think it would be meaningless to ask what purpose god had for bringing himself into existence. The notion of a self-caused being is absurd. In order for a being to cause its own existence, it would first have to exist - which is obviously absurd. But if the purpose of god's existence cannot be explained by reference to an intelligent, purposeful being other than god, and if it can also not be explained by referring to a self-creative act of god himself, then one could conclude that the question is probably meaningless.
All this is said with if and let’ s say or let us assume etc.
(can' t help it that we' re getting philosophy at uni)
i didnt read all this stuff but i think we did make god because if there realy is a god why the hell does he not listen to me i mean we are his creations and he sopposed to help our lives right? im probably wrong since i dont pay attention to religions (i dont go to curch thank god) when i do go i dont listen i only go with my grandperents i just think heard my mom get off the phone with my grandmom and they had a religion argument and my mom came up with good points like my grandmom always locks the door when a mexicon or black person walks by trying to make money and alot of ppl who go to church dont respect other ppls religon and thats just wrong that doesnt show u have compassion that shows u are a big bubble head ideot that cant respect others beleafs and if ur like that u should burn in hell (if there is one)