TH people have asked that for ages..."whats beyond that and then that and so on and so on" it's like an infinite number we can keep asking that question forever. Same thing with like atoms..whats smaller than that? well neutrons, electrons, and protons..but then what's smaller than that...(they actually have found something smaller now) and soon they'll find somehting even smaller than those, and so forth..it never can end.
They found smaller things than those ages ago, 113!
Computational Theory, that I just hooked TH to, says that the bottom layer is 'bits'- either the equivalent of 1s and 0s, or of a 'pure difference' between one state and another, and that the combinations of this make up every other fundamental we have ever found. All coming from the two original states.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
They found smaller things than those ages ago, 113!Computational Theory, that I just hooked TH to, says that the bottom layer is 'bits'- either the equivalent of 1s and 0s, or of a 'pure difference' between one state and another, and that the combinations of this make up every other fundamental we have ever found. All coming from the two original states.
..never heard of it, is it like binary code or something 1's and 0's 😕 ?
Originally posted by 113
TH people have asked that for ages..."whats beyond that and then that and so on and so on" it's like an infinite number we can keep asking that question forever. Same thing with like atoms..whats smaller than that? well neutrons, electrons, and protons..but then what's smaller than that...(they actually have found something smaller now) and soon they'll find somehting even smaller than those, and so forth..it never can end.
Well yeah, but people have been asking the title of this thread as well for ages yet we are still discussing it.
Originally posted by Fire
Well TH I believe there is some form of life energy which consists out of a pool, and every living being is contected to that pool, when it dies it's energy returns to that pool, and that pool made the universe, but it didn't make any planets evolve or so it just, as you said started it all
Kinda reminds me of Final Fantasy IV: The Spirits Within.
One thing i dont understand. is why people are disuaded from believing GOD because all of the suffering in the world. The reason thereis suffering in the World is because of choice. GOD gave us choice.
choice. Choice to do with our lives what we please, Choice is the greatest gift to be given aside of life. We as people have to learn to live in harmony. It is not God' fault that there is suffering. It is our fault as a humanity. Assuming there is a GOD
A while back I made a statement that if you claim to know if there is for a fact a GOD or not then you are ignorant. ...UsH you stated "it is unfair to call someone ignorant, for asking for proof" I never called anyone ignorant for searching for proof, i siad you would be ignorant for assuming to know an answer to somthing that there is no proof to.
Of course there is nothing wrong with striving for unkown answers. This is the human way. However when people start bashing comments to others that there is hno way there could be a GOD, or when people on the other side of the argument bash that there is no way there couldnt be a GOD this makes for a very unstable way of living. It even inspires hate to the highest levels.
I just merely meant to say that maybe everyone should realize and agree on that NO one knows for sure and we will never know , short of a second comming or a trip to heaven. I think the world would a better place if we could agree on this. It would allow independant studies on each side of the spctrum. This way we could live our lives with out religous enduced riots or streets clogged with anit - or pro religous protests. maybe even save a few lives. But the day the entire world agrees on anything is the day we wont need religoun
"A while back I made a statement that if you claim to know if there is for a fact a GOD or not then you are ignorant. ...UsH you stated "it is unfair to call someone ignorant, for asking for proof" I never called anyone ignorant for searching for proof, i siad you would be ignorant for assuming to know an answer to somthing that there is no proof to. "
Nope, sorry, if you cannot prove something exists you are entitled to say it does not without being called ignorant. It is not their job to prove he does not, it is the job of others to prove he does. It is basic principle.
there is no proof that a higher being does not exist. it is all only specualtion. specualtion on both sides. There is no proof on where humans came from . Only theories. Evolution is the biggest one, but evolution is still not a solid explaination. There is deffaintly no solid explaination of where existence began. So untill you give solid proof of where humans or even existence game from. The fact that there is a GOd or a higher being is just as acceptable than theories that we came from monkeys or a big boom from elements that no one can prove where they came from
Theories are based on evidence. There is nothing but hypothesis about God.
There is absolutely no way at all in which any hypothesis about God is equal to any scientific theory about creation. Sorry, that is the way it is. it is futile to equally compare the two.
Which is why I still massively refute your accusations of ignorance. That in itself seems to be an ignorant ideal of what ignorance is and how science works.
Believing in God is about Faith- NOT proof.
hmm..i agree ush, but the whole argument of god and his/her/its existance is pretty pointless, cos i cant prove it to you that it doesnt exist, and you cant prove it to me that it does!
Just because we dont see something it doesnt mean its not there....
its like conciencesness(sp)😑 we cant touch it or smell it or taste it, but we all know its there....
ok speaking scientifically. There is no solid proof of where humanity begun, or even existence. It is all still only specualtion, Aside the fact there is no evidence that we came from monkeys. For just about every theory that supports evolution. There is a question that leaves the thoery in a slalmate.
You say that the theory of evolution and faith cannot be debated on the same level of scientific proof. I disagree with this because there is no scientific proof of where humanity came from. Evolution is still a THEORY. there is no scientific proof to confirm evolution. I know you mean to say that relgoun cannot be an acceptable argument due to the lack of logic, but to me when no one can offer a scientific explaination of where we came from. I bleieve creationilism to be just as relevant as evolution. I myself believe in God without a doubt , but i believe there is still a possibility we could have came from evolution through the will of a higher being. I still cant see how religoun and evolution are seen as two totally different beliefs in the scientific world, when there is no proof on eigther side