Palpatines planning flaw

must say i don't remember too many yellow scaffold parts in the first deathstar

I haven't looked at ROTJ in a long time, but what did they say about the DS? just that they had a shield or something else?

They didn;t go anywhere near the exhaust port in ROTJ, even if such a weakness still existed.

I still think it's the same weakness. Blow up the main power source and you blow the station. But who cares? I love seeing those thing blow up. 🙂

How do you know that Ush?

Because the exhaust port had the width of a torpedo. It is also in the equatorial trench.

The superstrucutre in ROTJ was wide enough to admit a small freighter and was a fair way away from the trench.

So? Now we can start that the DS wasn't complete, so it was bigger than in ANH

That's a very loose argument. You think that meanssa that the EXHAUST PORT had to be 100 times bigger, twsity and moved to a different part of the ship without a trench?

Simpler just to say it wasn't the exhaust port at all. it was never presented as such and clearly we are not meant to think it is.

You think that meanssa that the EXHAUST PORT had to be 100 times bigger, twsity and moved to a different part of the ship without a trench?

The trench isn't needed for a DS, and it isn't important WHERE it is!

with twsity do you mean twisted?

Twisty, I meant. And we can assume that there is good reason that the port is where it is in ANH.

Never over-complicate unless you have to! And we do not.

It's just like a car: the place of the exhaust port doesn't mather, just be sure there is one

You will also note that a car's exhaust port does NOT increase in size proportinately with the car. Let alone many times more of a factor than the car.

And you are still over-complicating. The presented scenario is that it is NOT the exhaust port on the DSII, otherwise an indication would have been made to show that it was.

A car isn't a DS.

It isn't said in the movie that it was something else so...

Hey, you used the car example first! Practice what you preach.

It;s not up to the movie to say that it ISN'T. The move has to say that it IS. Until that point, the fact that it looks different and is presewnted as different is enough to say that it IS different!

The car-thing was to show that even now the exhaust-pipe hasn't got the same place on every car

It's maybe different because they made modifications to it

Yes, and MY car point was to show that, by that logic, it would still be the same size.

WHY assume that is a modified Exhaust port? Give me ONE good reason for it? Otherwise, don;t bother assuming anything; that's just making stuff up.

modified???
you're the one (or someone else 😄 ) that is saying that the DS wasn't complete, than it wouldn't look the same now doesn't it???

Logic has nothing to do about a DS that is created for mass-destruction

Yerssot, please talk sense. The DSII was not complete, but in no logical way at ALL does that make the exhaust port look like the tunnels in ROTJ! That really is utterly nonsensical.

Your logic point is pretty irrelevant as well.

AGain, I am going to have to make a call for fresh ideas here beofre this thread gets closed.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
AGain, I am going to have to make a call for fresh ideas here beofre this thread gets closed.

You love doing that now, don't you?
And btw: talking sense? now thanx!

There isn't a reason to believe that it isn't the exhaust port the same reason you say it isn't the exhaust port.
They knew about the weak place with the first DS, so they automaticaly searched in ROTJ for the same thing; it was because there was a battle going on and they didn't had a big choice, were to fligh in

You don't think it is simpler to assume that they simply flew throughn the unfinished DSII to reach the core? That is what they say, after all.

And YES, yerssot, I DO like keeping good order here, and that is because I am a mod and that is my job. If this thread ceases to have any useful purpose it gets closed. This argument is pointless.