Palpatines planning flaw

The reason there is no association with it is because it wasn't finished. After it was finished all the pipes would disappear.

yerssot, I think that you must be on crack for actually believing what you are saying. There is NO WAY that that is the same thing as the "exhaust pipe" of the first DS.

Remember IV. "The shaft is only two meters wide, so you'll have to use proton torpedos." Remember?

Okay, so how wide is the Millenium Falcon? It's at least 10 meters wide. The Empire wouldn't built a bigger shaft unless it had a different purpose. Case closed.

Case opened

I just found an old, and VERY ugly little pupet of the Emperor with a little card of the Death Star on it,
it says that the Emperors first concern was the exhaust-pipe, so there wasn't one in ROTJ.
So guess I was wrong, though I was pretty sure about it.

btw j212g: I don't take that!!! Please, leave that language, where I come from saying such is a big insult

I still don't know who I was agreeing with. 🙁

It weas me, KJ. Yerssot thought it was the exhaust pipe in ROTJ.

So noted, Yerssot. Jedi 212 wasn't trying to be very insulting, I am sure, but everyone bear in mind how easy it is to unintentionally insult someone.

So if you're going to insult someone then make it obvious. 😎

point noted. Just to point out, in Leuven, Belgium saying such is one of the biggest insults so PLEASE don't say that. (btw that is only in Leuven)

If I didn't found that card I still wouldn't belief it.

To come back on plans that are flawing; was Vader on the DS a good move? Didn't he screw up with his flight, I mean could he do better?

Basically, neither the EMperor nor VAder should have been on the DS if there was even the REMOTEST cvhance that the Rebel attack could succeed.

For wich reason was Vader on the DS when the rebels attacked? For more triumph? I guess that the Emperor was like Motti (?) Vader had to point out that he didn't need to be so proud on his piece of technoledgy; so if Vader wasn't proud of it, why was he on-board?

In theory, he was on board because the DS was utterly safe and it was where the EMPEROR was, and they were doing their Luke turning together.

In practice, I can't help thinkingt that doing it at Coruscant, like it was in the early scripts (then called Had Abaddon I think) was a better idea...

Actually I was talking about ANH, why is Vader there if he isn't that thrilled with the technology?

Because he has a job to do. He doesn't HATE the DS, BTW, he just thinks lose talk of it being the 'ultimate power' deserves punishment.

k,
And what do you think about his flying-quality?

As in how good a pilot is he? Well, he's the finest star pilot in the galaxy, isn't he?

Yeah, but he was easily distracted by the MF

He had become, temporarily, fixated on Luke, and the failure of ship scanners during that fight meant he had no warning of the MFs approach.

But I think that he didn't had to look to the MF, if he hadn't done that, he could evade the other ship and still could manage to shoot Luke

If he hadn;t got out of that Trench double quick he was toast; he was s sitting duck in there. And he WAS surprirsed!

I know, but I think that he had the chance to evade the other ship. Surprised or not, and what happend to his special powers: he can see things before they happen?

I would imagune all his future sense was concentrated at Luke's ship.