Ghosts of AOTC

An example:
it the PT was made first than the end scene wouldn't have yoda, obi and annakin in it, but the whole jedi council!

Why? Luke didn't know them, why would all these dead Jedi appear to him? They did nothing for him.

Basic story structure wouldn't have all those guys in ghost form anyway...

why would the jedi council be there, Anakin I think doesn't make the council and i doubt ob1 does.

Well, Queeg has the right idea. Obi and Yoda LEARN the dissippearing trick. Otherwise Vader would have never kicked at Obi's empty robes. It's a HUGE part of the plot that will be revieled in the next two films.

But your right about the fact that Qui Gon might only show up as a hologram (R2 plays a holo in EP2) and not as a 'Jedi Ghost' but that may also be the way Obi and Yoda learn the trick, from the other side so to speak. If Qui Gon does show as a 'Ghost'.

Anyway, we have only a few more months to go till we learn...
Cant wait! 😮‍💨

The whole destination stuff about disappearing is than fake: if their journey is complete, than they disappear; ifso, that is knowledge that every Jedi should know and that is there for many years.

I can assure you, Jameous, that Queeq does NOT have the right idea... I'm the one who has been pushing the learning idea for ages. The big disagreement is over Anakin's bosy in ROTJ.

Yes, I massively agree that Vader does not know of the trick, the two (disappearing and ghost form) are linked, and that most Jedi do NOT do this.

If it is about fulfilling destiny, then it must be SPECIFICALLY related to the Prophecy, and not be a general thing.

must be SPECIFICALLY related to the Prophecy

Quite easy than:
if you forfill your desteny that is involved with the chosen one, you will be a ghost. Including the chosen one

Hmm.. doesn't feel right to me. I still think it's just the MCS...

You're right Ush, but with the MC thing, I don't know that...
I think everything we know about it will be needed to complete the puzzle

And the MC's must have been introduced for a reason.

Maybe just to say that he will be the best of the best?

Qui-Gon could have done that if he'd just sadi " It's possible he was conceived by the force" and forgot all about the MC's.

but mc isn't the force

The MCs mean that there can be a force-related entity that is actually trying to DO something; making ands fulfilling a Prophecy to defeat the Sith (who unbalance the Force, their home) seems a good thing for them to do...

The whole balance/unbalance is really misguiding here! I mean what it really means
Wouldn't the mc be introduced than in ANH orso?
Why do you stick with the mcs Ush, and are you still with the destiny-thing?

I happen to be a big defender of the MCs.

The Balance thing isn;t actually confusing; people just keep reading ridiculous amounts into it!

And do you think that mc's and destination forfilling are related?

Well, that Destiny thing is just a general storytelling thing.

I suspect that the MCs and the disappearing and ghost trick are connected. But it is ONLY a suspicion.

My thoery was that the disappearing was the MCs pulling the body into the Force, and the ghjost trick was the MCs projecting them back into the real world.

But it takes effort so they only did it for the two most important Jedi- those who could help redeem Anakin and save the Prophecy.

Then they reclaim Anakin because he is their child.

But that was just a mad theory. I look forward to any future MC link, but we are WAY into the realms of speculation here.