Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I know what crossover you're talking about, I have it. It's Professor Hulk vs Superman. Hulk sucker punches Superman, Superman uses heat vision, Hulk punches Superman, Superman punches Hulk, Superman knocks the Hulk out.All of Savage Hulk's fights with Superman have ended with a draw. Neither Thor nor Superman could have an easy knockout against Savage Hulk. Assuming Savage Hulk is the Hulk in question, the odds are 6/10 in Thor's favor.
AHA! i knew it. Thanks, i'll have to search for it. Oh, you're prolly right, it must've been prof Hulk. But still, if Thor's smart he's going to stay away from Hulk and level the battlefield (this is assuming he wants to prolong the battle).
ps: i never understood why Hulk is written this way. I think there's a MAJOR fault in there. I think that something more interesting would be if Hulk's strength increased when angry and decreased when in fear. Since it happens so rarely, it'd be a nice refreshing sight. (Ex: when he's afraid of Wolverine cutting him)
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Wickerman
AHA! i knew it. Thanks, i'll have to search for it. Oh, you're prolly right, it must've been prof Hulk. But still, if Thor's smart he's going to stay away from Hulk and level the battlefield (this is assuming he wants to prolong the battle).ps: i never understood why Hulk is written this way. I think there's a MAJOR fault in there. I think that something more interesting would be if Hulk's strength increased when angry and decreased when in fear. Since it happens so rarely, it'd be a nice refreshing sight. (Ex: when he's afraid of Wolverine cutting him)
~wickerman~
It was definitely Professor Hulk. Superman says "And you're called the Hulk?", and Hulk replies, "Actually, I prefer Dr. Banner, or Bruce."
I agree 100%. I mean, if Prof can bet beaten unconscious by Doc Ock, no reason why Superman couldn't do something far worse.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It was definitely Professor Hulk. Superman says "And you're called the Hulk?", and Hulk replies, "Actually, I prefer Dr. Banner, or Bruce."I agree 100%. I mean, if Prof can bet beaten unconscious by Doc Ock, no reason why Superman couldn't do something far worse.
Yeah, i can hear ya. However, no answer on the whole "anger vs. fear" crux of the issue. 🙁 not that anyone would actually care.....except probably for thousands of angry fanboys asking why Hulk isn't the invulnerable angry green man that gives them wet dreams anymore.
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Not so. It takes a few seconds for Hulk to surpass Thor. There is no formula for the strength increase. It happens in an instant.
It's taken him hours to be as strong as Thor before, why would it change now?
This wasn't very long ago.
Also, show me somewhere that says Hulk's strength starts at 100, because I can show you where it says he starts out at 70.
Originally posted by Wickerman
I'm not sure about this one, but i THINK that i have a comic book somewhere where supes and hulk meet. Hulk's already angry and all and pretty strong, and Superman speedblitz's him with full strength into a mountain. Hulk.is.down. If my memory serves me well and this is the case, then i believe Thor could do it as well.
I think for the answer to this question we can only go back to when the characters were made and the positions they held.
Hulk was meant to be the undefeatable strongest guy there ever could be.
Thor was meant to be his "bucky" if you will. Like Cap and Bucky.
That's my call.
I think Hulk smash is true. Even though i like the whole guardian thing Thor's got going. Hulks the one he turns to when it gets to be to much.
Originally posted by long pig
It's taken him hours to be as strong as Thor before, why would it change now?
This wasn't very long ago.Also, show me somewhere that says Hulk's strength starts at 100, because I can show you where it says he starts out at 70.
One minor inconsistancy. They were armwrestling, not fighting. There have been other occasions when Hulk has exceeded Thor's strength in seconds, simply to prove he was stronger.
Feats of strength.
Bends Adamantium
Breaks A Very Powerful Forcefield
Breaks The Pit That Holds The Flame Of Life
Causes Incredible Shockwaves
Defeats Very Powerful Enemies
Deflects the Nightcrawler's Sonics
Destroys A Huge Asteroid
Destroys Onslaught's Armor
Destroys The High Evolutionary's Armor
Grasps An Energy Bubble
Hulk Is Power Incarnate
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (I)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (II)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (III)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (IV)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (V)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (VI)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (VII)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (VIII)
Leaps His Way Accross The Pacific
Moves Extremelly Fast
Overcomes The Matter Antimatter Attraction
Reaches the Leader's Kenitictronic Gloves
Supports A Mountain On His Back
Throws A Gem To The Center Of A Planet
Throws The Sub-Mariner From Key West To Miami
Damn i din` know he could bend the stuff.
Originally posted by Wonderman
Feats of strength.Bends Adamantium
Breaks A Very Powerful Forcefield
Breaks The Pit That Holds The Flame Of Life
Causes Incredible Shockwaves
Defeats Very Powerful Enemies
Deflects the Nightcrawler's Sonics
Destroys A Huge Asteroid
Destroys Onslaught's Armor
Destroys The High Evolutionary's Armor
Grasps An Energy Bubble
Hulk Is Power Incarnate
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (I)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (II)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (III)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (IV)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (V)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (VI)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (VII)
Hulk's Strength Is Limitless? (VIII)
Leaps His Way Accross The Pacific
Moves Extremelly Fast
Overcomes The Matter Antimatter Attraction
Reaches the Leader's Kenitictronic Gloves
Supports A Mountain On His Back
Throws A Gem To The Center Of A Planet
Throws The Sub-Mariner From Key West To Miami
Damn i din` know he could bend the stuff.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
One minor inconsistancy. They were armwrestling, not fighting. There have been other occasions when Hulk has exceeded Thor's strength in seconds, simply to prove he was stronger.
Actually, I wasn't even talking about that.
I was talking about Thor #385, where Hulk is on a rampage and Thor starts to hit him with his hammer, decides not to because he doesn't want to kill him, throws the hammer aside and fights Hulk h2h.
They go into a strength lock for hours, and then Hulk finally overpowers Thor.
All the while, Thor is holding back.
Originally posted by long pig
Actually, I wasn't even talking about that.
I was talking about Thor #385, where Hulk is on a rampage and Thor starts to hit him with his hammer, decides not to because he doesn't want to kill him, throws the hammer aside and fights Hulk h2h.They go into a strength lock for hours, and then Hulk finally overpowers Thor.
All the while, Thor is holding back.
Thor cannot lift as much as the Hulk can, and Thor knows this.
Thor has used Mjolnir's full fury against Hulk, and failed to fell him. Killing him isn't really an option.
How do you figure Thor was holding back? If we're talking about the same comic, the narration says he was "straining every Asgardian muscle."
"Does the beast's strength know no limits?!" - The Mighty Thor
Originally posted by long pig
So you do admit Hulk taking hours to reach Thors level?
That's all I wanted to hear.
Of course not. Hulk and Thor are equals at first.
Hulk exceeds him in mere moments.
During the Reborn Saga, Hulk lifts a neutron emission reactor that weighed of billions of tons. While Thor and Thing couldn't budge it, (don't ask me why they chose Thing to help him lift it.) Thor watches in awe.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Thor cannot lift as much as the Hulk can, and Thor knows this.Thor has used Mjolnir's full fury against Hulk, and failed to fell him. Killing him isn't really an option.
How do you figure Thor was holding back? If we're talking about the same comic, the narration says he was "straining every Asgardian muscle."
"Does the beast's strength know no limits?!" - The Mighty Thor
Thor was kicking Hulk's ass with the hammer.
Hulk realized that he can't beat the Thor with his hammer (because he asks him to throw the hammer away)
He even threatens to hurt a woman so that Thor will be forced to throw his hammer away.
It looked pretty clear that Thor would have won with his hammer.
Without him hammer Thor did fight a pretty long good battle but in the end Hulk’s Strength was too much.
Thor would definitely win with his hammer if he is Mad and goes all out.