The LOOP.

When Neo flies off, the two Smiths talk to each other and say "It's happening just like last time. Well, not exactly."

they actually say its happening exactly as before.. hehe but i still dont think that proves they knew anything.. because in the previous matrix's smith was so suprised when neo stood up after he watched him die with a certain satisfaction, smith says he knew it was impossible but it happened anyway.. he didnt know it would happen...

Maybe the previous anomalies didn't die like Neo did...

but smith was amazed that neo could even fight against him and destory him.. the ones could all kill agents

but if Smith had been around, he would know that the ONE will live, must live, until he reaches the SOURCE...you cannot say that a program charged with finding and killing the rebels would not know that one of them will be "superhuman"...

Maybe after becoming a virus, he infected a program that knew about the other anomalies, and he found out that way.

The Smith we know now is not the same smith fromt the previous Matrix loops.

Remember when a program has done his job, he is replaced by a better program.

As I stated before I was watching M1 last night. When Morpheus first countered Smith after taking Neo to see the Oracle.

Agent Smith: says Ahhh the great Morpheus.. We meet at last.

Morpheus: says and you are?

Agent Smith says I'm A Smith.... Agent Smith.

Morpheus: says You all look the same to me.

In his first statement Agent Smith was letting us know he came from a line of agents called Smith.

Also think about what he said when Smith meet Neo on the playground after Neo's meeting with the Oracle in Reloaded.

Agent Smith: I killed you, Mr. Anderson. I watched you die.... with some satisfaction, I might add. Then something happened- something I thought would be impossible, but it happened anyway. You destroyed me, Mr. Anderson. Afterwards, I was aware of the rules. I knew what I was supposed to do, but I didn't. I was compelled to stay- compelled to disobey. And right now, here I stand because of you, Mr. Anderson. Because of you, I'm no longer an Agent of this system. Because of you, I'm unplugged. A new man, sort of speak- like you. Apparently free.
Neo: Congratulations.
Agent Smith: Thank you.

He didnt want to be deleted so he stayed. If he had been deleted, the next version of Smith would have been Activated within the system.

IMO one of two things could have happned.

1. Since he didnt get deleted, the line of Agent Smith stopped.

2. Or the line could have been paused until the next resetting of the Matrix.

If the second Is true. Then the statement that the Oracle gives in Rev about Smith being Neo's opposite, would prove that the line of Smith is ment to be the one's true adversary throught out the life span of the Matrix.

If he had been deleted, no "other Smiths" would have been sent because all of the agents were replaced with "upgrades".

Even though they had upgrades I still think the Agents Line would still be there. Think about it. When an old program is out dated it is deleted. The only way it becomes outdated is when a better program comes along. In essence an upgraded program from the older version.

They're different agents, not the same. The ones from Reloaded are upgraded Agent Programs, not upgrades of the agents from Part 1.

I know that.

Heres an example of what i'm talking about.

Say your name is Mike Jackson. You are age 39. At age 40 you decide to have a son, and you name him Mike Jackson. Because of the systems way to identify each program your son will have the title of Jr added to him name as a way to tell the two Mike Jacksons apart.

Now your son is a totaly diff person from yourself. He's younger, stronger, and lets just say he has a better memory than you.

Shorty after your son was born you were killed. Since the system has listed you as dead, they take the title of Jr away from your son. Now hes just know as Mike Jackson.

Once your son reaches the age of 40 the cycle startes all over again.

After having done that several times you would have a long line of porgrans that have had the name Mike Jackson. All are diff and better than the last, but are still listed as Mike Jackson.

Now lest apply this to Agent Smith and his line.

What if the Machines did the same thing by naming each agent in a class unique to their own designation.

The system would have many listings of agents all having an identifing class as agent Smith, Agent Jones, or Agent Brown.

The number designation would be dropped due to the old program being deleted, and the new one taking his place.

The Jr or number designation would only be for historic records within the Matrix database.

I know i'm rambling, but I hop you understand what I;m trying to say.

Uh... your explanation made no sense. If Mike Jackson Sr. was killed, Mike Jackson Jr. wouldn't become Mike Jackson, he'd remain Mike Jackson Jr....

You totaly missed my point. think like a computer.

I get what your saying. I was just saying that your analogy made no sense.

If there was a line of Smiths, then the Matrix would have been able to send another Smith into the Matrix (though they didn't because there are upgrades) because the current Smith is a virus/exile. He's no longer an agent. He's not connected to the system.

What urot is saying makes sense to me. It's happened close to the same each time, with each one (with Trinity changing things up slightly this time)...

Each time 'Smith' has played the role as Neo's adversary. Likewise 'Jones' and 'Brown have played a role. For the first One, lets assume Smith 1 fought The One 1. The One 1 killed Smith, returned to the Source. Then the machines upgraded Smith, and released Smith 2 - in the next cycle with the next one, he essentially played the same role as the previous Smith, only with the second One.

This repeated several times, and now we have the sixth One - Neo, and what we can assume is Smith 6. It seems like each movie has three principal agents (and then Reloaded added another new agent to replace Smith, who seems to have been "unplugged" from being an agent).

The point is, its a new smith, so he doesnt have the memory and knowledge of the previous Smiths (explains his surprise at some events)... but essentailly the Smith program itself always plays the same role each time around.

Maybe that makes a little sense, or maybe I'm just confusing things further 😛

Fine, make me waste my post :-D Figure it out while I'm busy typing... lol

EDIT: ok as long as you understood what I was trying to say.

As i said what if the if the computer mainframe simply dropped the JR & Sr titles leaving the current person/program with just the basic name.

The system would Identify them as a totaly diff program, because the previous program was deleted.

I'll try to more it more simple.

Program beta 1 had a skill level 12. Its job was to keep the door of the house closed.

Now that program became obselete, becuase the house now has windows.

Beta 1 was written only to keep the doord closed.

So the owner deletes beta 1 , and writes a new program to keep the doors and windows closed.

Since the owner has removed the first version of beta 1. he now has the freedom to name the new Program Beta 1, because the older Program named beta 1 was deleted.

Once you get rid of a program with a certain name , the system is free to name any new program with the old name.

That could be happing with the diff versions of the agents throught the many cycles of the Matrix.

Same name diff programs.

I see what you're saying, but Smith reveals that he knows about the different Matrixes in the beginning of Reloaded.

Yes he knows about the history, but he dosent know all the details.

That would be like saying The europeans were given the land of the New Americas by the Native Americans of their own free will.

Not knowing they killed off the Native Amreicans with small pox and warfare to get what they wanted.

The agents have a version of the truth, but not the whole truth, and what part they play in the whole scope of the Matrix theme.