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Hear, hear. Trust me fellows, one can disagree and live peacefully together.
I think KJ edited his post already, no reason start saying stuff like "he goes, or I goes." I think that's childish. Swallow your pride a bit, boys.

On a side note, to make things more exciting. Did you know that any city or town that has a mosque is considered part of the Islam? So if they start liberating 'holy sites' (i.e. where a mosque is) then there may be trouble. Though I doubt it will come that far.
Another nice touch is that Jerusalem is NEVER mentioned in te Quran, although many muslims pretend Jerusalem rates up there with Medina and Mecca.

I understood it was the land it stood on, not the entire town.

Otherwise the majority of London and the southeastern towns of England is a Islam.

Exactly. Technically speaking yes.

No queeq is right it is if there is a mosque in a town the entire town is considered "holy" gound. Also if the religion of Islam reach 10% in a country that country shall, according to the Koran, follow Islam law and the Koran. Sounds like democracy 🙄

Well, if only 10% voted for anything in an a democracy, they would lose. THus not being able to follow the local laws.

Just being a hard arse 😛

Where on earth are you getting all these Koran facts from????

We already know finti is anti-Islamic, so I wouldn't trust any facts he gives 🙄

terrotist isn't the same as Islam

Umm, that is pretty obvious even to the most dim-witted person!

How about this fact, the word Islam actually translates to PEACE!

Its funny how the actions of the IRA never affected peoples perception of Christianity.

First of all Ush CHEER UP!!!!!! You take this place FAR too seriously. I can say whatever I like on this topic whether you claim it's your specialist subject or not.

Dim is right. This isn't a pissing contest. You say what you feel, I say what I feel. That's how it works. No one has any right to assume that they know best and everyone else is wrong. And no one should spit the dummy and storm away. I've done that before and it's not nice.

If you want me to reply to you're last post (and I can) then send me another PM and we can keep it away from everyone else. I'm not interested in proving who knows more about this to everyone else, so talk to me in private.

And if you actually read your own posts you'll see that you make far more personal attacks than I do.

Anyway, last Thursday Hibernian played AEK Athens and during the minutes silence the Greek fans sang songs and burned a US flag. Hope that cheers you all up. 🙁

So where did this 10% deal come from? It seems like if that was the case then the US would be considered a Islamic country. As for land around a mosque, I can understand that...the same goes for land around churches.

Another nice touch is that Jerusalem is NEVER mentioned in te Quran, although many muslims pretend Jerusalem rates up there with Medina and Mecca.

I don't think they're pretending..They include the Tora and the Bible in their religous texts so it would make sense that Jerusulem would be important to them too.

Originally posted by Raz
Umm, that is pretty obvious even to the most dim-witted person!

We already know finti is anti-Islamic, so I wouldn't trust any facts he gives

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Where on earth are you getting all these Koran facts from????

Actually, the Koran DOES mention Jureslum. Also the Al-Aqsa mosque is where Mohammad was taken into the Heavens by the Angel Gabrael....just done some reading up 😄

Not sure where that 'Iman' got his facts from, but I've never heard of it.

BTW, how is saying Fridays prays different to ringing a bell in a Church on Sundays? Although reading the prays out loud (through speakers I presume) should only be done where there is a majority of Muslims.

I used to live in a town that was packed full of Muslims, and hardly any Christians, but the Church there still rang the bells on Sundays. I didn't hear any of the Muslims complaining that they want to sleep.

BTW, if you haven't guessed already, I was brought up as a Muslim....SHOCK HORROR!!! 😱

AND BEFORE YOU ASK, NO I'M NOT A TERRORIST! (Like I told Dim, when I told her).

You were worried we would think you were a terrorist?

Hang on, there were people who didn;t think you had a Muslim upbringing!!?

I tend not to tell people that I was bought up as a Muslim because the first thing they think is....He must be a terrorist, and it really pisses me off.

I'm not surprised, if that's what they REALLY think. Strange world.

I don't understand how comes that people can't stand other religions, I don't have one, but I think actually that the Islam is the best.

Yeah I guessed you were a muslim/ muslim related Raz. During an introduction topic, you stated your name and it sounded I dont know muslim( no offence)
Well I dont like the sunday bells either(big surprise),

It is more about employers who are not willing to let their workers go for prayers in the middle of the day(friday). Norway has lutherean protestant as a state religion and Sunday is the day off. If they want to pray(muslims) they have to do it on their spare time. That is what the employers want to put forward, Stavanger is the "oil capitol" of Norway and friday is very busy day. They want to get everything ready for the weekends. They(the muslims) have to respect the way of living in Norway and follow the working hours that are set by the employers.
This is what the arguments is about they are allowed to use "shout" their prayers from their mosque though to the agrrevasion of the racists..

finti, surely you're not suggesting they should give in the racists???

As for the Friday prayer, its a problem between the employer and employee, not yours or mine.
Its never been a problem for me, as I never go. 😛
The only time I can remember recently going into a mosque was for my uncles funeral, otherwise I never bother.

Interpretation has always been the biggest problem with this sort of thing. Bin Laden and his kind interpret it all to mean thatnthey must fight and die and kill others for the cause and believe absolutely that their holy texts support them; many more say that virtually the complete opposite is so.

In the end, everyone has to pick and choose what they believe. For example the world would be a complete nightmare if people took the Bible literally (complete with gay burnings and punishments for not selling your daughter into slavery and for growing different crops in adjacent fields (those are from Deuterononmy).

MOST people have the common sense to adhere to the spirit of things but it doesn't take many people to interpret their texts badly to form a higgly unpleasant organisation like Al Qaeda.

Raz, your point about the IRA never being labelled as Christian terrorists is taken, but it's not just because of western prejudice; it's because the IRA (and even the Loyallists) don't quote bibilical lines all the time supporting their views and glorifying their position, at least not in public. Muslim fundamentalists, which I whole-heartedly accept are massively mistaken and unrepresentative, DO do such things.

Hence people have associated these terrorists with their religion in a way they have not associated terrorists in Northern Ireland with theirs.

It's sad, I know, and it's people like you that often have to take the fall out for it, but that's why, I think.