Interesting Revolutions Review from Space.com (Spoilers)

I just read a review on Revolutions over at space.com (which also has a Matrix Timeline).

http://www.space.com/entertainment/revolutions_review.html

Note the sentence :” Unlike the films of other serials, Revolutions wouldn't mean much unless you've seen -- and understood -- its two prequels.”

I disagree with his conclusions on the final battle between Neo and Smith. A review from your moderator follows after work 🙂

(buzzer sounds)

ROTJ the best bookend? There goes HIS credibility as far as I am concerned...

http://www.space.com/entertainment/when_matrix_031105.html

wow, look at the people who don't understand ANY of what the Architect said...if they did understand it, they would know the year is probably closer to 2800, not 2200...

JediHDM> My point exactly. How these people reached this conclusion about it being the year 2200 eludes me completely. But it's interesting up until then. I wonder how they got the dates.

However: The review brings up some interesting points though, which I do agree with (and some I do not).

His last line even states what the Architech said, yet he ignores it. This is due to Morpheus's estimation of being the year 2100 something in M1 and that sticks in most peoples minds. They probably wouldve been better off having Morpheus say "We honestly dont know what year it is" without the 2100 estimation.

Tell me if im being an idiot or if im insulting anyone (some ppl seem to be very quick to do that....hehehe) but, uh can you also post some of the other reviews that are out there?. I would also like to see ones from critics who have been around for a long time and would know what they are talking about from a theatrical point of view.

My review of Revolutions (Part 1)

Everything that has a beginning has an end.
Revolutions pick up at the exact point in time where Reloaded left us cliff-hanging. Neo’s in a coma, with Trinity watching over him, and with a comatose Bane, infected by Smith, lying opposite him in the sickbay of The Hammer.
But the movie doesn’t close the Matrix Book with finality. Some of the questions posed in Reloaded are solved, some are left open, and may never truly be answered. This will annoy some movie-goers, who’re used to having mainstream Hollywood movies spell out the plot and answers, to there’s no room left for thought and reflection.
But those who require a book-end like “Return of the Jedi”, will not get it.
The visual effects are mind-blowing. They’ve reached a point where it’s no longer possible to tell real stuff from computer graphics, such as the epic battle between humans and machines in the last free city of Zion.

Revolutions is the second half of Reloaded and its climatic finale. And it’s racing along with a pace that can leave you breathless. Even then it manages to stay true to the taste of its predecessor and bring up the philosophical points in a way that movie critics either hate or love.
To get the full benefit of Revolutions, the viewer also needs to’ve played the game Enter the Matrix, and watched the nine Animatrix cartoons. There’s a host of characters, Niobe, Ghost, Sparks, The Kid and even the Trainman, whose stories are not told in Reloaded, but in the game and Animatrix.

Where Matrix and Matrix Reloaded pay tribute to myth and legends from around the world, both Greek, Roman, Hindi, Buddhist, Christian and Norse, as well as fairytales such as “Alice in Wonderland” “Behind the Looking Glass”, “Wizard of Oz”, and William Gibsons cyberpunk genre, “1984”, Revolutions use the darker aspects. The Merovingian comes out in all his “Lord of the Underworld” powers, seated up high in Club Hel, like Hades, controlling and ruling the netherworlds of the Matrix. The topics are death and destruction, spelled out in the character of Seraph as a “Fallen Angel.” And in Neo’s desperation, as he, despite his powers having extended to the real world, are faced with too many enemies.

The Trainman resembles the frightening spirit “Bob” from Twin Peaks, and his role is a blend of a scary Sandman and an evil wandering spirit. In some places the music bears a resemblance to the characteristic theme of Terminator, and there is a clear tribute to the Alien-movies. The machine city resembles a gothic surreal Dantes Inferno, with jagged black towers, and spiderlike machines.
The inspirations from Japanese Anime and Frank Herbert’s Dune are even stronger in Revolutions than in the two previous movies. The main-characters are not at the forefront anymore, but drawn back to a state of “spiritual presence.” Distant, larger-than-life, aside from a very emotional scene between Neo and Trinity near the end of the movie, which contains the essence of this movie. What it means to be a human being.
Neo’s fate bears a resemblance to that of Paul Atreides from Dune Messiah and his son in God Emperor of Dune.

"2100 -- Machines create the Matrix, a dream-like world set in 1999, to extend the lives of the comatose human batteries.

2105 -- The first human known as The One, locked in bondage inside the Matrix, learns he can manipulate the world through thought and manages to break free. Seeks sanctuary in the underground human stronghold of Zion.

2105 - 2150 -- Zion resistance movement created, although The One later dies under unexplained circumstances.

2161 -- Morpheus born in a Matrix womb; freed in childhood.

2167 -- Trinity born in a Matrix womb; freed in early childhood.

2175 -- The Oracle prophesizes that Morpheus will discover the second coming of The One.

2199 -- Trinity and Morpheus discover Neo, a hacker in the Matrix. They free him and do battle with Agent Smith, a program designed to rid the Matrix of humans who detect its flaws.

2201 -- The Osiris, another human rebellion ship, discovers machines drilling through the Earth above Zion. Crew members send a message through the Matrix to their compatriots shortly before being destroyed."

1) wasnt the first matrix a 'perfect world' - not 1999.
2) if morpheus says that have fought for 100 years, that means the previous zions would have only lasted a few years, as 100 years have passed since 2100 to 2200, meaning he must know more than he lets on?

am i confused or are they wrong?

THEY are wrong. Whoever made that timeline didn't get the Architects speech in Reloaded.

Well well lookie here

http://411mania.com/movies/news/article.php?news_id=4487

http://www.411mania.com/movies/reviews/article.php?reviews_id=2185

http://www.411mania.com/movies/reviews/article.php?reviews_id=2199

Hey if you dont care for the reviews so much that's coo' but the first link has real numbers.

DV> What does that site have to do with space.com and reviews?

Morpheus states in M1 that the year is closer to 2199, remember? That's when they find Neo and set him free...

So what's wrong?

I just edited my post and that site does movie reviews one from someone who liked reloded and one from someone who disliked reloaded.

Should I clutter the place up some more and make another thread or just come here and post some reviews.

but Morpheus was going on the premise that, right after Second renaissance, the humans were put into the matrix that they are in, not knowing that there were 5 ones before and two failed matrices...THATS whats wrong...

DV> Your original site was just the tiresome repetition of "it's just money and nothing else." If you have something to contribute that deals with the spac.com review, mine or the timeline, go ahead. If it's something else, look for a thread ALREADY dealing with it...
If it doens't exist go ahead and make a new thread.

Originally posted by The Omega
space.com and reviews?

O_o?

By the way.... can anyone explain why is it that in the end of The Second Renaissance we see that little kid running home to meet his parents and he finds the agents? I mean, that's still the real world with nuclear winter, right?

So what gives? Agents can exist outside the Matrix?

my taking on it is that the machines took the boy away to the matrix, and the machines are shown metaphorically as agents, but thats just my perception, others will say differently and i aint sure

How was trinity freed in early childhood. I thought she was a computer hacker as it was stated in M1.

So? Morpheus is considered to be a computer hacker as well. They don't entirely drop that scthick once freed.

But yes, the timeline is nonsense!