Who exactly is Palpatine? (theories welcome)

Originally posted by imhotep
But a Sith lord, strolling around in Naboo just seems a little far fetched.
I go with him being powerfull with the force, and after researching Jedi/Sith history he was tempted by the Dark Side. Rmember, if the Sith were wiped out, there would be a serious unbalance in the force. I think the Dark Side reached him first

Well I dunno about "canon",but as far as EU, which has no place here mind you 🙄 ,the sith always had existed, only in extreme secrecy waiting for the right time to strike out and destroy the jedi. I think he was sensed by a sith, at some point in his life, seduced and taught the ways. When he realized he was more powerful, or simply became more ambitious, he destroyed his master and found an apprentice.

it's always "tradition" that the apprentice kills his master

Originally posted by imhotep
We do NOT know that...We assume that...
You want to hear my opinion on assumptions??

The truth is, there is no need to know where he comes from, he comes from GL imagination. There has to be a point in a fictional story where you stop digging and just take things as they are given you.

We are not exactly discussing HIstory here, in the end, it´s just a movie...

I'm sorry, but I really feel like shit today!

We DO know it- GL says as such, describing the cycle of Master and Apprentice.

Originally posted by imhotep
But a Sith lord, strolling around in Naboo just seems a little far fetched.
I go with him being powerfull with the force, and after researching Jedi/Sith history he was tempted by the Dark Side. Rmember, if the Sith were wiped out, there would be a serious unbalance in the force. I think the Dark Side reached him first

This is untrue. Wiping out the Sith does NOT create an unbalance in the Force- the exact opposite is true. The Sith CREATE imblance; their destruction removes it.

Here's my theory. Palpatine grew up on Naboo and was missed by the Jedi. It is likely that he resented the republic and the jedi for some reason. He was the first to realize that the republic was too strong to be overthrown by sheer force, as had been tried countless times before. He knew that it would have to be done from the inside. So, he became a senator at a fairly young age (I'd guess around 17) and somehow met with a Sith master, was accepted and was accepted as an apprentice. He became Sidious. He killed his master, like most Sith, and took on the infant Maul as his apprentice. When Maul was old enough, he started using him against the Jedi. He became supreme chancellor, and you know the rest.

ok guys the speculation is over I know teh real deal behind old palpatine

see he went to the same school as me so i know

he was very bad at sports and had no luck with girls . he was good at science and maths and was ok at geography . when he got to the age of about 13 he saw the 1st star wars movie . after that he invented a time machine . after making a few movies about his time machine he decided it was time to sort out teh crappy star wars movie george lucas made .. sooo (gasps for air) he goes back in time to when lucas was a young boy . he became georges best friend and he slowly but surely influenced the outcome of the movie that resulted from these childhood chats georg had with palpatine .. anyhoo after a few years of pretending to liek george he went back to the future .. so the future is different george lucas uses him in his movie yet he has no clue that this was the kid who gave him all the best ideas fro teh star wars moviesall those years ago .. the anger grows and hate takes over he is now the evil emporer he decideds to sell his time machine to spielberg and spends the cash on some very high grade narcotics (this is why he looks like shit later on in the movies) anyway I hope i have cleared things up for you guys ... you guys were way off sith huh no way call yourselves star wars nerds too hehe

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yeah, that is pretty much the level of a lot of these theories...

Nah, I'm just a pretty depressed guy who occasionally likes to escape reality, my own problems, and the predictetorial state of our nation.

Why does everyone think he was trained be a sith lord? There where no sith round for thousands of year before and there was a balance in the force, Palpatine was born on Naboo, and wanted to go into to politics while doing some research in to ancient ways he stumbled across the ancient sith manuscripts and because he was so powerful in the force it did not take him long to master the trades and techniques. Palpatine did not get into poltics until he was older, what was he doing in the earlier days, tranning, how old is Palpatine? We don’t know so he could have be study and learning the manuscripts for a very long time.

Bane survived, and he spawned the new sith who lived under the jedi's nose, whatever technique clouds sidious clouded them.

it's a long time to wait 1000 years with out coming into the open or doing much really, that’s hundreds of sith that never did anything, surly its more likely that the sith died and then were resurrected but some one very powerful, like Palpatine?

was Darth Bane his master?
nah, Bane was the last remaining Sith about that battle.
but palpatine/sidious seems to be that old... nah...
i agree about the naboo boy/sith discovered him/trained up/became evil etc... then he killed his master...
nah, whatever

the new sith order was about pacience. Sidious struck because of a framework of corruption in the senate and other governing council first set into motion by his hidden sith predecessors. He did it because the timing was right, his plan was flawless, and he was possibly the most powerful sith in existance

for those who do not agree with the above statement

Spoiler:
We shall see who runs away in the next movie, yoda or sidious

yeah godfather, the Jedi BELIEVED the Sith to be extinct. But they had to wait for a time to strike. They spent the last 1,000 years passing on information, gathering intelligence, and most likely a lot of wealth. For all we know, Palpatine might not ACTUALLY be from Naboo, if the Sith gathered enough wealth and used a few well placed mind tricks, they could very easily set him up as a Senator. But, the Sith were definetly alive for the past 1000 yrs and were in fact doing something: carefully and meticulously piecing together (as much as I hate to admit) a really brilliant scam to overthrow the Jedi and take over the Republic.

I think he really came from Naboo, but like said, a nice set-up to gain power

OMFG IT SAYS ON THE BACK OF THE BOX OF THE EPISODE ONE DVD AND/OR VIDEO THAT PLAPATINE IS SIDIOUS WHO THEN BECOMES THE EMPEROR!!!!! you think palp just woke up one day and could shoot force lighting uhhh NO he is a sith lord but gives his title as sith lord to vader cuz he has to tend to his dutys and emperor. come on ppl commmon sence!

I think that the sith were responsible for the corruption. Darth Bane probably came up with the blueprints and all the sith followed them, improvising when necesary. Palpatine just sped up the process and added to its framework the whole concept of an empire and the minor violation of the law of two by allowing sith wannabe dark side adepts and dark jedi to serve as servants and assassins.

I do believe palpatine is from naboo but I think he is much much older than anyone thinks

OMFG IT SAYS ON THE BACK OF THE BOX OF THE EPISODE ONE DVD AND/OR VIDEO THAT PLAPATINE IS SIDIOUS WHO THEN BECOMES THE EMPEROR!!!!! you think palp just woke up one day and could shoot force lighting uhhh NO he is a sith lord but gives his title as sith lord to vader cuz he has to tend to his dutys and emperor. come on ppl commmon sence

Sidious uses his sith force ability to hide his true identity, Palpatine was a necessary act to come into power. He never gave a way his sith lord to annyone, Palpatine/Sidious is the sith master. Vader was his apprentice. The Lord title seems to follow with beeing a sith..I guess

btw, the back of a box is in no way canon you know