yup, finti is right
please read this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f38/t20461.html
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yup, finti is right
please read this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f38/t20461.html
before commenting any further
look, even though i agree with you Dirty, the rules of the form say this is film only. Its on a film site not starwars.com. they keep EU out not to knock it, but because it contradicts itself occasionally which makes it unreliable and easily debatable. Which wastes time we could be analyzing the film, which is the only for sure indicator of what Lucas will do since its the only stuff word for word from his mouth.
look, even though i agree with you Dirty, the rules of the form say this is film only. Its on a film site not starwars.com. they keep EU out not to knock it, but because it contradicts itself occasionally which makes it unreliable and easily debatable. Which wastes time we could be analyzing the film, which is the only for sure indicator of what Lucas will do since its the only stuff word for word from his mouth.ver well put Mephistodesign .THUMBS UP AND 6 on a dice (In Norway the press uses a dice to rate films,albums, books and so on so 6 is the perfect score.)
ok half the reason i like star wars is the whole jedi and shith history, philosophy, ect. and i've read all there is to know about the two. after bane (who the jedi thought was dead with all the others) the next pair of sith we know are only sidious and maul. after maul dies sidious knows he dosen't have enough time to train another apperentice fully so he gets dooku (tyrannus). there is no others mentioned. and the only sith that have "darth" in there name where those 4. it was a title bane came up with. yea i know its in Knights has "darth" reven and malak but those ppl dont know sheit about the EU so they wouldn't know.and if you think about it its dead fu**in' obvious that sidious and palapatine are the same person. end of story, so you can just close the thread now!
Originally posted by yerssot
not a bad idea, since everyone and you included uses EU CRAP here all the time!the history of the sith and jedi is unknown we only have a reference to Bane in the EpI Novel and that's about it!
Maybe you should say "EU Stuff" instead of "EU crap" if you're not knocking the EU. I keep wanting to jump up and scream "THE EU IS NOT CRAP!" before I realize you're not saying it is. 🙂
As for the whole EU/Canon debate, I still think EU things should be allowed to be referenced in the debates, as long as their posted as not necessarily canon. The EU can still be very useful in illustrating a point (especially since a lot of EU writers are much BETTER writers that George. 🙂 )
ok, palpatine being sidious Was not my intent when i start this thread (A F!#king four year old can tell). I wanted people to use evidence from the movies and movie novelizations, along with that imagination thing that's contained within that gray, fatty, electrolitic thing within our skulls. Since this has come down to petty bickering about the sith and other off topic stuff like whether the EU is true (IMHO, if it tells a good story and fits characterization, it's cannon ex.-cloak of deception is cannon, splinter of the minds eye is not)...again that's not the point of this thread.
If you feel like debating the EU thing, divide into team kirk and team piccard, and settle this with a geeky plastic lightsaber fight. losers have to give up their entire collection of star trek memorabilia, ninja turtle action figures, and golden and silver age comics. the celebrity judge will be Mickey Suttle, his mom can't pick him up so anyone who doesn't have a problem with giving a 47 year old overweight virgin shut-in a ride home shall do so.
Now Either stick to the topic or go fight like geeks!!!
I wanted people to use evidence from the movieswe know palpatine is the emperor from the OT, also that the emperor is Vaders master. whenever we see the emp in the OT he got his own little musical theme, a haunting darkened type of music. The excact same tune is played when Sidious is talking to the Trade federation dudes in the holographic scene in TPM, so the same "personal" tune for Sideous and the emp well............ damn where is Watson when you really need to slap someone with evidence
Yeah, technically, calling him Emperor Palpatine is an EU thing that made it's way into the movies, like the name of Coruscant. In the OT, we NEVER heard his real name. Hence the people who really want to believe that they're not the same person, and Lucas is throwing us for a loop. While a twist like that would be rather cool, I don't expect it to happen.
I agree with Vengeance God, actually; you can use the EU to try and illustrate points so long as you do not try and make out they are hard facts. I refuse to dismiss an opinion simply BECAUSE it is EU. I simply won't accept it as a fact just because it is EU either.
DJ, your opinion on what is and is not canon is no more relevant than your opinion of the colour of the sky; it is how it is regardless of what you think it is. It's not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. Feel free to have an opinion on what canon SHOULD be, but opinions will not change what it is.
Personally I will be very happy for Palpatine's origins to be forever in mystery; he is a Sith after all.
Originally posted by finti
Lucas had the name Coruscant, he allowed the author to use it in the novel, but the name is his making. About the emperor you are right we doesnt get his name at all in the movies, it is however provided in the Novel of ANH in the journals of the whills, but as it is semi canon we leve it with it
You're contradicting what you said in the other topic, but oh well. 😉 And actually, the name Coruscant was chosen in Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy. Initially, Lucas had only called it "Imperial Center." After pressure from the fans, he gave in and called it Coruscant. (This was in Star Wars Insider, so please don't try and tell me I'm wrong.)