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A deja-vu in the Matrix is a sign of something being changed only. Since the deja-vu (black cat) in M1 was NOT a reload of the Matrix, a deja-vu does not equal Reloaded.

The One is NOT returned anywhere. The anomaly is needed to Reload the Matrix. Since Neo glows when he’s transported off at the end of Revolutions, and all that glows seen though “Those” eyes are connected to the Source, the only thing that could make Neo glow would be the anomaly. Hence the anomaly was NOT retrieved from Neo.

Neo was the sixth One. Not the first, second, third…fifth One. Nor could he be the seventh One, as the system now frees the people who CREATE the anomaly in the first place.
This has happened FIVE times. So you can speak of a Matrix 3.0 (First One), Matrix 3.1 (Second One)… Matrix 3.5 (Sixth One, Neo). Each Reload has run though the 20th century, while Zion has been rebuild and restored by rebels and freed minds who knew NOTHING about the truth.
We are still in Matrix 3.5 as the matrix was not Reloaded. Neo retained the anomaly. There can be no other anomaly.

(Edited for crappy spelling!)

Precisely.

that allowed him to redesign the Matrix (to me definatly implied by the whole "glowing like a lotus" thing.

HI, what are talking about when saying "glowing like a lotus" thing?

Where is that? Thank you.

Oli

jsut to quickly add my thoughts.... the matrix was never "shut down" so i dunno why u guys need to argue if it was "reloaded" or not. Agent SMith jsut took over everyone in the matrix, close to almost destroying it, i suppose. Then Neo does goes in there, destroys the agents and "dies" (im not so sure on that yet, but everyone is arguing that he did indeed "blow up"😉 but the matrix itself wasnt destroyed. Just Agent Smith. So everyone else inside went back to normal like the Oracle. All the programs 'n all. Just my thoughts....
Gnothi Seauton,
--Munch

Oli> When Neo is taken away by the machines at the end of Revolutions he is glowing orangish and it looks like a lotus.

After being "destroyed" like that in the Matrix, his mind might be in a vegetable-like state, even though his body's still alive.

Does anyone have any solid connections to the orgins of the ships names? I placed a few in the Ency, but I'm still missing a few.

Osiris, Egyptian god of the underworld and vegetation.
Nebuchadnezzar, Babylonian king who had dreams of the future.
Icarus, boy in Greek mythology that flew to close to the sun and fell to his death.
Mjolnir, Thor's hammer

The Osiris was destroyed, so it's name matches its real life counterpart. The Mjolnir is big and powerful, like Thor's Hammer. We all know that King Neb and the greek god Morhpeus are similar and therefor go together. We never saw the other ships that were destroyed and I'm not too familar w/the crew/captains of the ships. It would be nice to see if the ships' names and thier captain's go togeher. I already know who Ronald (sp?) is and he seems to fit the pattern.

When the Matrix was reloaded the first 5 times and the clock was reset, what would the people still in the Matrix experience? Would the machines wipe their memory or something? Any thoughts appreciated.

I'm pretty sure their memories are wiped.

I have been musing about the characters' motivations, especially Merv...

In Reloaded, the Oracle, the Keymaker, and Seraph are trying to help Neo get to the Architect. Merv and Smith are trying to prevent him from getting to the Architect. The Oracle, we learn in Revolutions, is doing a double deal: by breaking up Morpheus and Niobe (thus turning M into more of a zealot to influence Neo), and more importantly by manipulating Neo and Trinity into falling in love, she sets up a situation where for the first time the anomaly will not choose to save humanity: so I can see why she wants to get him to the Architect to put that action into motion. Seraph is helping her. The Keymaker's motivations are perhaps unimportant. But why do Merv and Smith want to stop him? Merv has survived the previous reloads; and Smith wants to destroy everything anyway.

Also, when the Keymaker escapes from Merv the agents pursue him to kill him. (During the car chase, the Keymaker and Trinity split up, and an agent says, “She means nothing. Find the exile.” Later an agent catches the Keymaker and says, “You are no longer necessary.” The Keymaker responds, “We do only what we’re meant to do.” The agent says, “Then you’re meant for one more thing: deletion.” ) Why is the Keymaker scheduled for deletion? He doesn't seem to be malfunctioning; there is no evidence that the backdoors aren't working and aren't still necessary.

Also, why is Merv such a coward? We learn that programs are difficult to kill (Persephone says that Merv keeps the vampires because they're so easy to kill, only requiring silver bullets) and yet when Trinity puts a gun to his head in Revolutions he gets all sweaty and caves to her demands. When he faces Neo in his house in Reloaded he runs away. And yet he is so powerful.

Originally posted by Rufo
I have been musing about the characters' motivations, especially Merv...

In Reloaded, the Oracle, the Keymaker, and Seraph are trying to help Neo get to the Architect. Merv and Smith are trying to prevent him from getting to the Architect. The Oracle, we learn in Revolutions, is doing a double deal: by breaking up Morpheus and Niobe (thus turning M into more of a zealot to influence Neo), and more importantly by manipulating Neo and Trinity into falling in love, she sets up a situation where for the first time the anomaly will not choose to save humanity: so I can see why she wants to get him to the Architect to put that action into motion. Seraph is helping her. The Keymaker's motivations are perhaps unimportant. But why do Merv and Smith want to stop him? Merv has survived the previous reloads; and Smith wants to destroy everything anyway.

Even though programs know about the numerous anomalies, it doesn't mean that they know that the anomaly is what resets the Matrix.

Also, when the Keymaker escapes from Merv the agents pursue him to kill him. (During the car chase, the Keymaker and Trinity split up, and an agent says, “She means nothing. Find the exile.” Later an agent catches the Keymaker and says, “You are no longer necessary.” The Keymaker responds, “We do only what we’re meant to do.” The agent says, “Then you’re meant for one more thing: deletion.” ) Why is the Keymaker scheduled for deletion? He doesn't seem to be malfunctioning; there is no evidence that the backdoors aren't working and aren't still necessary.

The Keymaker is meant for deletion because he's an exile, meaning he was supposed to be deleted a very long time ago, but chose to stay in the Matrix.

Also, why is Merv such a coward? We learn that programs are difficult to kill (Persephone says that Merv keeps the vampires because they're so easy to kill, only requiring silver bullets) and yet when Trinity puts a gun to his head in Revolutions he gets all sweaty and caves to her demands. When he faces Neo in his house in Reloaded he runs away. And yet he is so powerful.

You say, "Even though programs know about the numerous anomalies, it doesn't mean that they know that the anomaly is what resets the Matrix."

But while Neo is fighting Merv’s thugs in Reloaded, Merv says, “I have survived all your predecessors; I will survive you.” I think that shows that he understands.

Re the Keymaker, maybe some bit got edited out, but it's odd that there is not even a tiny clue as to why he's up for deletion.

As to Merv being a coward, I was just surprised to realize it. It's another oddity---not what I'd expect in a kingpin type guy.

Originally posted by Rufo
You say, "Even though programs know about the numerous anomalies, it doesn't mean that they know that the anomaly is what resets the Matrix."

But while Neo is fighting Merv’s thugs in Reloaded, Merv says, “I have survived all your predecessors; I will survive you.” I think that shows that he understands.

I said that they DID know about the anomaly. Even though the Merv does know about the anomalies, it doesn't mean that he knows of The One's importance.