Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
agree on Wolverine MA fight record? What do you mean by that?Also there has to be a time limit this can't simply be open ended. There has to be a defined end date.
Yea wed agree what his fight record is
1-0 vs Cap
1-1 vs Shang
1-2-1 vs DD
0-1 vs Elektra
0-1 vs Punisher
1-2 vs X23
1-1 vs Daken
Etc
Originally posted by Letters
Yea wed agree what his fight record is1-0 vs Cap
1-1 vs Shang
1-2-1 vs DD
0-1 vs Elektra
0-1 vs Punisher
1-2 vs X23
1-1 vs DakenEtc
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yea thats not gunna happen at all. Thats the job of the judges to decide based off are arguements. Because frankly, you ignore contexts of the events in question and are very much off base.
Yea because you say so right? If you can't acccept Wolvies record or claim PIS for any of those fights there is no point. Id rather just discuss it here.
Originally posted by Letters
Yea because you say so right? If you can't acccept Wolvies record or claim PIS for any of those fights there is no point. Id rather just discuss it here.
but in general, cries of PIS make an argument look weak. if dum dum in this case, cried pis, it would fall to him to prove it. as someone who would be interested in following this bz, i'm still not sure why you're concerned about records. you'd have your chance to prove your points.
meh, i've no stake in it so maybe my opinions are unwelcome. as i said--i think it would make for a fun bz though and i for one would really like to see it come to pass. 🙂
Originally posted by Letters
Yea because you say so right? If you can't acccept Wolvies record or claim PIS for any of those fights there is no point. Id rather just discuss it here.
The "No PIS" Rule
PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
If a character's history constantly portrays them more powerful / effective than they are represented in a specific example, then that example is PIS. Not because I say so, not because Dum Dum say so, but because the rules say so, and therefor we as forum collectively say so.
Read the Forum Rules, Wang.
Originally posted by leonidas
but in general, cries of PIS make an argument look weak. if dum dum in this case, cried pis, it would fall to him to prove it. as someone who would be interested in following this bz, i'm still not sure why you're concerned about records. you'd have your chance to prove your points.meh, i've no stake in it so maybe my opinions are unwelcome. as i said--i think it would make for a fun bz though and i for one would really like to see it come to pass. 🙂
Yea good points. It does sound fun. The only thing I'm worried about is that ill be wasting time trying to validate the fights in question instead of actually debating what took place in said fight, tactics strategies skill levels and stuff. It will be hard to do that if half the fights are listed as PIS.
Originally posted by Letters
Yea good points. It does sound fun. The only thing I'm worried about is that ill be wasting time trying to validate the fights in question instead of actually debating what took place in said fight, tactics strategies skill levels and stuff. It will be hard to do that if half the fights are listed as PIS.
always a concern in debates but if you get some good impartial judges and do a good enough job making your case it shouldn't be a problem--assuming you make a good strong case. 🙂
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, records of previous fights shouldn't matter at all for this battlezone. all those things would be brought up in the match. if letters is as right as he claims, then it shouldn't matter that it's agreed upon--he'll be able to prove his claims to the judges.
yup 100% correct.
He not right thats why he worried.
Originally posted by Letters
Yea because you say so right? If you can't acccept Wolvies record or claim PIS for any of those fights there is no point. Id rather just discuss it here.
No because I can prove it. You my friend and in for a very rude awakening if you actually man up and battlezone me.
Originally posted by leonidas
but in general, cries of PIS make an argument look weak. if dum dum in this case, cried pis, it would fall to him to prove it. as someone who would be interested in following this bz, i'm still not sure why you're concerned about records. you'd have your chance to prove your points.meh, i've no stake in it so maybe my opinions are unwelcome. as i said--i think it would make for a fun bz though and i for one would really like to see it come to pass. 🙂
Originally posted by leonidas
always a concern in debates but if you get some good impartial judges and do a good enough job making your case it shouldn't be a problem--assuming you make a good strong case. 🙂
very true.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No because I can prove it. You my friend and in for a very rude awakening if you actually man up and battlezone me.
So where is my rude awakening? I have been waiting for it and it still has not arrived 🙁
Perhaps if you were man enough to continue you could have delivered it too me. But I guess you are not even man enough to finish the fight.
I will now give the opportunity to any other Wolverine fan to discuss or counter my argument against Dum Dum here in this thread.
Unless of course there were no flaws in my argument and Batman really does defeat Wolverine.
Originally posted by LettersYou're gonna feel dumb if Capt turns out to have been in the Hospital for being Raped or something.
So where is my rude awakening? I have been waiting for it and it still has not arrived 🙁Perhaps if you were man enough to continue you could have delivered it too me. But I guess you are not even man enough to finish the fight.
I will now give the opportunity to any other Wolverine fan to discuss or counter my argument against Dum Dum here in this thread.
Unless of course there were no flaws in my argument and Batman really does defeat Wolverine.
Originally posted by Letters
So where is my rude awakening? I have been waiting for it and it still has not arrived 🙁Perhaps if you were man enough to continue you could have delivered it too me. But I guess you are not even man enough to finish the fight.
I will now give the opportunity to any other Wolverine fan to discuss or counter my argument against Dum Dum here in this thread.
Unless of course there were no flaws in my argument and Batman really does defeat Wolverine.
No need to hit him while he's down. Seem's a bit like E- bullying to me.
Why don't you challenge a hard core Wolverine fan ? ( jinzin) comes to mind.
I think bruce could last longer then some project, but without prep/equipment theres really no way he can put Logan down, barring the off chance that he catches him with a freeze capsule or one of those adhesive bombs.of course if Logan figures there just conventional means of causing harm like a bomb pellet etc he could neglect to attempt evasion. I've seen Logan purposely tank damage because of his healing factor many times.
Originally posted by Don Corleone
No need to hit him while he's down. Seem's a bit like E- bullying to me.Why don't you challenge a hard core Wolverine fan ? ( jinzin) comes to mind.
There is no such thing as ebullying as I can't physically hurt the guy. Besides he ebullied me first. I was just pointing out the fact he doesn't even know me yet challenged my manhood and accepted his challenge while Dum Dum displayed his true colors.
He has the nerve to make a comment like that while not knowing who he is dealing with. I am simply calling him out on that fact.
I have been respectable to every other poster in my time here and only respond in kind whne necessary.
Originally posted by Hypester
It's hard to say... sometimes they write wolverine like he's Batman... he is occasionally a master of all martial arts styles, this that and the other...Batman is more resourceful and, arguably, quicker than Wolverine, who has a slightly longer reach. There's too much chance that Batman will get tagged by some claws. Batman may just be plain out better (Batman is better than Captain America, who is on par with Wolvie) but Wolverine doesn't need much leeway.
1.wolverine is a master martial artist, well not all of them..
2.avengers and JLA actually fought and on the comics bat fought cap an both say that they are on par, plus cap and wolvi fought and cap even
did a dirty, dirtiiishh attack(some kind of pressure point) but logan knows it plus he healed ( haha annoying HF)... cap=bat, wolvi>cap, wolvi>bat... 😂 😂 😂
BTW correct me if im wrong on the 2nd part, memory is kinda sketchy 😆