Is every orc once an Elf?

Started by BingaBonga3 pages
Originally posted by Maikahyandowen
he actually used to be good looking too. weird........

hey, hey, evil can be hot. 😈

I guess I need to speed up reading the Silmarillion. I know about Melkor, so he is a god, but is evil right?

Yes correct
Hes one of the Valar but not counted to them and his name is not used in Middle-earth

After Melkor burnt the trees of the Valar and left for Middle Earth with the Silmarils the Elves began a long a brutal war against him. He took many Elves and threw them into the dark pits of Utumno (sp?) they were tortured in those pits, they went without sunlight and eventually became the Orc race.

Melkor/Morgoth also took several Miar spirits (sp?) and turned them into Balrogs. Gandalf and Saruman are Miar spirits, Istari.

Uruk-Hai as said by Gandalf in FOTR "He is breeding Orcs with Goblin-Men"

Goblin Men? Strange, maybe someone should check the book, they can't be Half-Orcs because they are different altogether...aren't they?

AHHHH HEY I'M READING THE BOOK DON'T SPOIL IT! 😠

They are called Maiar...

No the orcs were far earlier (cuz how could he make war without orcs??)
He took elves from the shores of Cuiviénen before the Valar even noticed that they had awoken... Melkor did everything earlier than the other valar did... (thats why the elves feared orome, thinking he's the Dark Rider again)
He turned other spirits towards his mind already during the music of the ainur

the whole existence of evil is down to that one out of tune singing voice in the music of the ainur

*looks at the posts again* okay, now i've read that part... *phew*