Vader is NOT the best. He was conbsiderably slowed by his cybernetics.
Luke was a half-trained boy and,his talent aside,does not even begin to rater compared to the other on-screen Jedi.
Darth Maul's 'apprentice' title is just that- a title. It does not mean he was a novice or newbie, just that he was not the Master. As Qui-Gon described, he was well-trained in the Jedi arts- a formidable and lethal opponent. No shame in losing a straght fight to him. Obi-Wan also lost a straight fight; he hd to win by Maul making an arrogant error.
And there is no point calling the ChoseOne thing nonsnese. That is how GL wants it to be. Luke could NOT defeat the Empror. Only Anakin could.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Vader is NOT the best. He was conbsiderably slowed by his cybernetics.Luke was a half-trained boy and,his talent aside,does not even begin to rater compared to the other on-screen Jedi.
And there is no point calling the ChoseOne thing nonsnese. That is how GL wants it to be. Luke could NOT defeat the Empror. Only Anakin could.
If Vader was not the best how could he still defeat the Emperor even after Luke had bested him? There is more to being a bada$$ Sith Lord than wielding a lightsaber. And Luke was not half-trained. Yoda himself said Luke would be a Knight once he confronted Vader. Granted, Luke wasn't raised at the Temple like the other apprentices, but he was still a qualified Jedi Knight none the less. If anything, that just adds to Luke's abilities. He was only trained for a short time but still managed to defeat his father and stand toe to toe with the Emperor and not turn to the dark side. Thats pretty "cool" if you ask me.
JO- GL himself said that Luke was half-trained. Sorry.
And power levels had nothing to do with being able to beat the Emperor, who was more powerful than EVERYONE else, full stop. Anakin was destined to be able to beat the Emperor, that was the thing.
And Luke always struck me as exceedingly uncool person, though he was getting there in ROTJ with his new outfit.
QGJ still wins hands down.
The fact that he was "half trained" just adds to his greatness. Depsite that setback he was able to do things no other Jedi could. QG blackmailed his own apprentice to train a boy everyone knew to be dangerous and in the only lightsaber fight we see him in he loses. QG was my biggest problem with TPM, his character was pointless and only adds problems to OT storylines.
QGJ was trying to make the best of a bad situation, though choosing Obi-Wan was admittedly an error. Giuve a dying man a break!
Well, I love him. Wise, compassionate, deadly, thoughtful... as I said, everything I imagined a prequel-era Jedi Master to be. I thought bhe was the coolest of the cool. Though I am surprised to see so many agree. Yayy!