a jedi never dies...

I knew I had to check swmovies.net first! 😉

Well, I guess it's true (shame, big shame!!!)

SWmovie is the place, yes. So go there next time. 😉

one thing we must keep in mind in discussing qui-gon's possible return in a form other than the pre-recorded hologram, is that GL has thought all of this through. Here are the facts:

Anakin, Yoda, and Ben all vanished when they died. They all became ghosts.

The only ghosts we have seen have "attached" themselves to Luke shortly after they died.

We have only seen good Jedi become ghosts.

As of ANH, it seems Anakin/Vader (and thus jedi in general) is unaware of the "ghost trick." However, this necessitates the question: If the ghost trick is not common knowledge to jedi, how does Anakin learn it b/w EPIV and VI?

Qui-gon does NOT dissapear when he dies at the end of EPI, and still has not appeared as of 10 years later.

Anakin, Yoda, and Ben all vanished when they died. They all became ghosts

Still discussion about the link

We have only seen good Jedi become ghosts.

Because we are not in need to see a Sidious ghost

As of ANH, it seems Anakin/Vader (and thus jedi in general) is unaware of the "ghost trick." However, this necessitates the question: If the ghost trick is not common knowledge to jedi, how does Anakin learn it b/w EPIV and VI?

It's Vader in ANH, twisted and evil...
He just didn't learned it, or they didn't told him...
And ANAKIN becomes ghost because ... well, he IS the Chosen One!

how anakin learns it is the main thing im concerned about. Maybe it will be explained in the "definative editions" of the OT

no! definitly not
I'm sure that he can do it without effort, because he is the Chosen One

you dont just learn something like that out of the blue. If Anakin were to learn it on his own, then there would have to be some great revelation he has in his dying moments. I am having my doubts right now as to whether Anakin really did dissapear when he died. The novelization says otherwise

I heard that the official site says he disappeared or at leats that McCallum said it.
I still don't believe it. And if it IS true, then I think ROTJ is VERY VERY VERY flawed in not showing it. I'd consider a major ERROR, almost unforgivable and I think GL should fix it then in the SSE on the 2006 DVD.

official site is not cannon 🙁
but yeah, Mc said it, and you can take another thing from the movie as a sign that he disappeared

What other thing. The only thing used now is that him appearing as a ghost is proof he disappeared. But if QGJ appears as a ghost, then that clue is potentially non-valid.

my marvelous "his mask is IN his helmet" reply...

I think its likely just a flaw in the movie. GL probably just doesnt expect people to even think deep enough to notice. He would rather us spend our mental faculties looking for nsync in the background of a genosis battle

they did indeed said they just forgot to let him vanish

Mask in his helmet.... OMG!! 🙄

indicating that there is no-one in it

and thus we are back to the questoin: where the heck did anakin learn how to vanish?

and then my reply comes again (because no-one reacts to it!)

He is the Chosen One, he can do it all by himself!

that idea shows a lack of thoughtful thinking.

or you lacking imagination

hmmm, im not the one who says anakin just automatically learns the ghost trick because hes the chosen one. whos lacking imagination? :-)