Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
She's more resourceful perhaps. And Ino no longer has to be passed out to use her mind-swap thing...so that's an improvement. So yeah I'd say she's on par with Sakura though not for combat purposes.
Sakura is still the better ninja by virtue of her raw power, taijutsu skills, and superior healing.
Her possession is quite uber, but its glaring weaknesses are ridiculous.
Originally posted by Q99
Oh, definitely. Kurenai doesn't get repeatedly shown sucking, and when she lost, she looked competent and cool-headed but outmatched, rather than badly outmatched *and* complaining about being shown mercy (which is... yea, bad).Lesse, I think in terms of doing major stuff, Ino now outranks Sakura!
To be fair Kurenai has only ever been in one fight...which is still better than Tashigi being fail in all of hers. Though the latter was kinda neat when she stripped Crocodile of his title. But yeah, it's pretty sad when Naruto's treatment of women seems to be the most reasonable in one instance(granted Oda is usually better). Granted I actually think Kubo is better than them both but that's just me.
Sakura helped killed an Akatsuki member and discovered the existence of the White Zetsu, which helped saved the world. Ino helped defeat Asuma and one of the Kaku bros and then took over Obito for a moment to save Naruto and co. In terms of number yeah Ino has done a tad more but scale goes to Sakura and Ino had more help. She was also pitiful against Kakuzu.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
To be fair Kurenai has only ever been in one fight...which is still better than Tashigi being fail in all of hers. Though the latter was kinda neat when she stripped Crocodile of his title. But yeah, it's pretty sad when Naruto's treatment of women seems to be the most reasonable in one instance(granted Oda is usually better). Granted I actually think Kubo is better than them both but that's just me.
On the one hand, Kubo has Yoruichi and Rukia and Soi Fon winning badass fights. On the other hand, there's the constant hostage taking and Orihime being useless. Still, there's a pretty solid argument there, especially considering how many guys are less useful than Rukia.
And Hiro Mashima of Fairy Tail, of course, blows 'em all away.
I think treatment of female characters goes Mashima, Kubo, Kishimoto, Oda.
Originally posted by Q99
On the one hand, Kubo has Yoruichi and Rukia and Soi Fon winning badass fights. On the other hand, there's the constant hostage taking and Orihime being useless. Still, there's a pretty solid argument there, especially considering how many guys are less useful than Rukia.And Hiro Mashima of Fairy Tail, of course, blows 'em all away.
I think treatment of female characters goes Mashima, Kubo, Kishimoto, Oda.
Yeah but Mashima makes up for that with Lucy, the ultimate eyecandy piece currently in the Shonen high tiers: even more fanservicy than current Nami and Robin.
Originally posted by Q99
On the one hand, Kubo has Yoruichi and Rukia and Soi Fon winning badass fights. On the other hand, there's the constant hostage taking and Orihime being useless. Still, there's a pretty solid argument there, especially considering how many guys are less useful than Rukia.And Hiro Mashima of Fairy Tail, of course, blows 'em all away.
I think treatment of female characters goes Mashima, Kubo, Kishimoto, Oda.
Well I think it's just that Kubo's characters cover more ground. There are the attractive girls who are aware of their assets and proud of them like Rangiku while some like Isane are more reserved. And then there are the middle of the road girls that are comfortable in their bodies regardless like Rukia, Soifon, and Yoruichi.
With Kishimoto I kinda have sympathy because he's fully admitted that girls just do not come easy for him when it comes to creating them. So I kinda take his ignoring of them to mean he just doesn't want to screw up(which he still does a lot lol).
And Oda has degraded by slapping big breasts on all of the girls. But I guess the girls do kinda get to do more...though I don't think Robin has ever had a good fight to her name. And looking back I kinda wish Oda had let Nami fight Monet.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Yeah but Mashima makes up for that with Lucy, the ultimate eyecandy piece currently in the Shonen high tiers: even more fanservicy than current Nami and Robin.
Fanservicey, sure, but she gets a share of wins and a good amount of screen time. Robin almost never gets a fight of her own. And then there's Erza, the top female character in all of these when it comes to both winning fights and general portrayal (she's both a female main, and stronger than the male lead!).
Oh yea, I guess Ken Akamatsu with Negima, is high up there too. He does fanservice, but for both sexes, and the most powerful character is female, and the female fighters, even the minor ones, are regularly highly effective.
AuraAngelWell I think it's just that Kubo's characters cover more ground. There are the attractive girls who are aware of their assets and proud of them like Rangiku while some like Isane are more reserved. And then there are the middle of the road girls that are comfortable in their bodies regardless like Rukia, Soifon, and Yoruichi.
With Kishimoto I kinda have sympathy because he's fully admitted that girls just do not come easy for him when it comes to creating them. So I kinda take his ignoring of them to mean he just doesn't want to screw up(which he still does a lot lol).
And Oda has degraded by slapping big breasts on all of the girls. But I guess the girls do kinda get to do more...though I don't think Robin has ever had a good fight to her name. And looking back I kinda wish Oda had let Nami fight Monet.
Kishimoto, yea, I give him a pass as well since he does admit to having some problem, and when the female characters do show up, it's not rare for them to pull highly effective stuff (Tsunade, Temari, Chiyo, Ino). And there is a fair amount of variety in his female characters as well. His main problem is giving them something of the shift on development, mostly Sakura, but that's really not that big a sin.
Oda's one-body-type thing for female characters does get old, plus the sexism of a few characters.
Originally posted by Q99
Fanservicey, sure, but she gets a share of wins and a good amount of screen time. Robin almost never gets a fight of her own. And then there's Erza, the top female character in all of these when it comes to both winning fights and general portrayal (she's both a female main, and stronger than the male lead!).Oh yea, I guess Ken Akamatsu with Negima, is high up there too. He does fanservice, but for both sexes, and the most powerful character is female, and the female fighters, even the minor ones, are regularly highly effective.
I should've specified that I wasn't really being serious with that comment. But yeah, Erza tops ever female character currently in the Shonen manga.
Ken Akamatsu is on a completely different tier of writing compared to those chumps: dude was able to juggle 32 female characters and make them all likeble. Eva would hand the strongest from the Bleach, Naruto and Fairy Tale verses their ass(maybe even OP too) all the while being an awesome loli. 😄
Edit: Eva's the strongest female in that series and also ties with Rakan.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The Lifemaker is female?How very interesting.
The Lifemaker is something of a title/possessing force/plot device... but I was thinking more of the characters who hang around and get screen time, in which case tops is Eva, who only Rakan can compete with like Wakka said.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Ken Akamatsu is on a completely different tier of writing compared to those chumps: dude was able to juggle 32 female characters and make them all likeble. Eva would hand the strongest from the Bleach, Naruto and Fairy Tale verses their ass(maybe even OP too) all the while being an awesome loli. 😄
Yea, juggling that many characters (or more, really, with groups like the magic world school group!) is really impressive, especially as a lot of them got significant character development.
If she is any stronger than Rakan, it isn't signifigantly, and Nagi embarrassed her.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaOda is a better writer than Akametsu. Be real.
I should've specified that I wasn't really being serious with that comment. But yeah, Erza tops ever female character currently in the Shonen manga.Ken Akamatsu is on a completely different tier of writing compared to those chumps: dude was able to juggle 32 female characters and make them all likeble. Eva would hand the strongest from the Bleach, Naruto and Fairy Tale verses their ass(maybe even OP too) all the while being an awesome loli. 😄
Edit: Eva's the strongest female in that series and also ties with Rakan.
He juggled many characters, but most of them weren't particularly interesting or likeable.
Originally posted by NemeBro
If she is any stronger than Rakan, it isn't signifigantly, and Nagi embarrassed her.Oda is a better writer than Akametsu. Be real.
He juggled many characters, but most of them weren't particularly interesting or likeable.
Not when it comes to females which was what I was referring too at the time.
They were all likeble overly-developed middle school students...well not all of them.
Originally posted by NemeBro
If she is any stronger than Rakan, it isn't signifigantly, and Nagi embarrassed her.
She does have that uber spell. In terms of artillery, she can dish out more than all of the old gang that's still around, in addition to being personally strong.
And Nagi embarrassed her with a juvenile trap rather than a fight per se.
Oda is a better writer than Akametsu. Be real.He juggled many characters, but most of them weren't particularly interesting or likeable.
Mnnn... I liked most of them, there's more development in general, a much faster pace, and none of the arcs were really crap.
As far as translations go I use Mangakong. Seems to be the most consistently competent translation I've had the fortune to come across so far.
Now... Does anyone have a good theory or explanation as to why the 9 tails doesn't turn into the 9 tails when Naruto goes into Bijuu mode but turns into a giant energy cloak monster instead? It's been bugging me for some time now.
Originally posted by Q99
Hey, remember that Naruto RP I run?I managed to get *four* "Damnit Sasuke!"s from the players in one fight ^^
Context?
Because I lol'd.
Originally posted by jinzin
As far as translations go I use Mangakong. Seems to be the most consistently competent translation I've had the fortune to come across so far.Now... Does anyone have a good theory or explanation as to why the 9 tails doesn't turn into the 9 tails when Naruto goes into Bijuu mode but turns into a giant energy cloak monster instead? It's been bugging me for some time now.
Yeah, during the Pain fight, Kurama was shown with musculature and a skeleton.
Minato sealed the Yin half of Kurama's chakra into the Death God when Tobi used him to attack Konoha. Therefore, Kurama now has only Yang chakra, and IMO, he's as strong as he was before the attack on Konoha, but that's neither here nor there.
According to Obito, Yin was used by the Sage to create the physical form of the Bijuu, while Yang was used to imbue the Bijuu with life, so maybe that has something to do with it; Kurama's chakra now also lacks the abundance of hatred it once had.