Lol. It's a buzzword. Try proving he is a racist for a change. The manga says otherwise quite explicitly; this is inarguable now, so you can cling to your perverse version of the truth if you want.
Tobirama just cares about people that have the village's safety and future in mind. Kishi is telling you this
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Lol. It's a buzzword. Try proving he is a racist for a change. The manga says otherwise quite explicitly; this is inarguable now, so you can cling to your perverse version of the truth if you want.Tobirama just cares about people that have the village's safety and future in mind. Kishi is telling you this
Are you really so innocent that you believe racism to be, for lack of a better comparison, completely black and white?
Take this statement: "I don't believe in the persecution of black people. But they are more fit to manual labor because there genes make them stronger."
It's not a venomous statement but it is still quite racist.
As is Tobirama's logic. To an extent yes anyone could betray the village for the sake of their clan. But the fact that he considers the Uchiha to be the one most likely to do so because of something that makes them different(eyes) is what makes him racist.
Or for a more real life example look at Joseph Conrad. He was certainly against the treatment that Africans were seeing at the hands of the British but some still argue he was a racist given his obsession over skin color and the fact that this problem can seemingly only be solved by white people.
Originally posted by AuraAngelSpoiler:
Sasuke just decided to join the battle to protect Konoha...Whoa...
Or he's
Spoiler:
only trying to save it so that he can destroy it himself afterwards
vin
Originally posted by Kento
Oh Suigetsu you coward you.
He'll end up being the one to solo Madara. awesome
I laughed at Sasuke's reactions to Karin's actions, Orochimaru deadpanning when Karin was beating the shit out of Suigetsu, and Orochimaru and Karin talking about how Sasuke stabbed the both of them.
Well Tobirama finally has hero credit even if he is a bit of a racist prick. Also, did Orochimaru finally give up on trying to take Sasuke's body.
Now we just need to wait for Sasuke to start shooting rainbows out of his eyes and everything will be complete.
I also like how the manga states that Itachi is better than Hashirama not once but twice 😄
Originally posted by AuraAngel
I can agree with you in part Astner. I really only have one complaint about this chapter.But some people will hate it because of Sasuke's decision.
What's the complaint? That some people will dislike the fact that Sasuke now wants to stop Madara after he previously decided to destroy Konoha?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
What's the complaint? That some people will dislike the fact that Sasuke now wants to stop Madara after he previously decided to destroy Konoha?
Nah, I'm all for that.
My complaint is Karin going back to wanting to fondle Sasuke's cock for no explained reason lol.
Originally posted by AuraAngelyou keep using black/white issues as th basis for your flawed argument. That's on you.
Are you really so innocent that you believe racism to be, for lack of a better comparison, completely black and white?Take this statement: "I don't believe in the persecution of black people. But they are more fit to manual labor because there genes make them stronger."
It's not a venomous statement but it is still quite racist.
As is Tobirama's logic. To an extent yes anyone could betray the village for the sake of their clan. But the fact that he considers the Uchiha to be the one most likely to do so because of something that makes them different(eyes) is what makes him racist.
Or for a more real life example look at Joseph Conrad. He was certainly against the treatment that Africans were seeing at the hands of the British but some still argue he was a racist given his obsession over skin color and the fact that this problem can seemingly only be solved by white people.
Not certain yet who's views your adopting but they're wrong. Tobirama simply recognises the TRUE issues their cousin clan has, this issue inevitably created at least one neo-madara and that was Tobirama's entire basis for his hard approach to dealing with the uchiha. However, those that don't carry the anti-konoha sentiment were his family so to speak.
But go ahead, try and make it a race issue when no race (a thin concept these days) is involved, uchiha can hide their surnames and be friends with senju, but the second you exchange surnames you are instantly bound to use prior political tension from that point forward.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
But go ahead, try and make it a race issue when no race (a thin concept these days) is involved
Kay.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Tobirama simply recognises the TRUE issues their cousin clan has
And I suppose Tobirama would also recognize the TRUE nature of Jews to be money grubbing douches right?*
*NOTE: I better specify that I'm being a sarcastic ass to prove a point because otherwise you might report me for being antisemitic!
Herein is racism because it's an assumption based on a race. Saying that the Uchiha as a whole have "issues" that set them apart from others is racism guy lol.
Originally posted by AuraAngelI would report you (for real this time) for being an idiot with no shame in displaying it.
Kay.And I suppose Tobirama would also recognize the TRUE nature of Jews to be money grubbing douches right?*
*NOTE: I better specify that I'm being a sarcastic ass to prove a point because otherwise you might report me for being antisemitic!
Herein is racism because it's an assumption based on a race. Saying that the Uchiha as a whole have "issues" that set them apart from others is racism guy lol.
Again with real life examples without the intelligence to use them properly. Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat to push his agenda. Germany only allowed Jews to have banking jobs and inevitably they had a monopoly, so he used them for the money woes of the working class. Human's don't have a predisposition to use money, unless you want to argue that "sarcastically", derp. but this is a non-issue
You won't divorce race from this no matter what for your own pride. So be it
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Lol. It's a buzzword. Try proving he is a racist for a change. The manga says otherwise quite explicitly; this is inarguable now, so you can cling to your perverse version of the truth if you want.Tobirama just cares about people that have the village's safety and future in mind. Kishi is telling you this
No it doesn't, you stupid pedophile. 👆
Tobirama considered Kagami a "credit to his race", much the same way Abraham Lincoln (A racist man) considered Frederick Douglas a "credit to his race". Tobirama only approved of Kagami because he surpassed the boundaries of his clan, aka, acted in a way that he personally finds acceptable. 👆
What Kishi intended to put onto paper is irrelevant, while I doubt you have the mental capacity to grasp a concept like Death of the Author, Kishi's intention does not matter. Only what makes it to print does.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
I would report you (for real this time) for being an idiot with no shame in displaying it.
Again with real life examples without the intelligence to use them properly. Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat to push his agenda. Germany only allowed Jews to have banking jobs and inevitably they had a monopoly, so he used them for the money woes of the working class. Human's don't have a predisposition to use money, unless you want to argue that "sarcastically", derp. but this is a non-issueYou won't divorce race from this no matter what for your own pride. So be it
Lol at Hitler being the only person to hold that view of Jews.
And I would differentiate it if I could think of something else to call it. Tobirama is effectively being prejudice over a persons last name. I don't know what you would call it but I call it racism due to the fact that it is based on a genetic feature the Uchiha have no control over(activation of the Sharingan).
Edit: Oh shit NemeBro is here backing me up. Victory is assured.
*high fives NemeBro*