Except I don't like the Uchiha Brothers at all. Sasuke's Amaterasu has failed to burn through anything. Itachi's burned through something that breathes fire instantly, instantly engulfed the clone thing Sasuke did, and spread around the area rapidly. Sasuke has used it more, and it's failed to do as much as Itachi's. Raikage had enough time to cut his arm off, Sasuke had enough time to figure out how to turn it off before Karin was engulfed, and it couldn't burn through Gaara's sand, or the Samurai armor. Being able to control the way the flames moves doesn't make it more powerful.
Originally posted by Kento
Hahaha At least I'm not voting for any of the three. Madara, Danzo, Sasuke neither one really interest me in a fight much less as characters, and after my let down of Killer Bee vs Kisame I doubt even a Gaara or Shino fight about to happen would get me enthused.
Previously you would have loved a Gaara vs. Shino fight 😛?
~ Figures you would have two of the best Sharingan users 😛, as well Danzo.
Originally posted by Kento
=P They are just forgotten because they would destroy the villains if they got any screen time. Just like the Aburame Clan except on a higher scale.
You mean it's because they cannot destroy villains or anything that they are forgotten 😛.
Originally posted by Kento
Gaara just needs to do something, anything, to prove he's still powerful. Even though protecting himself, and his siblings from Amaterasu was kinda impressive, it was Sasuke's Amaterasu which is kinda..weak.
That particular version was just fireballs and little flame iirc, but Sasuke is better than Itachi is known to be at using Amaterasu. Heck, he was able to cover and affect the Hachibi with it. I haven't seen Itachi dish out that much flame in one shot.
After all, Itachi has been able to use those MS techniques for years. Sasuke has had two of them for weeks at most, and he's already this good. He's going to surpass Itachi anyway 😬.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix=P Not a Gaara vs Shino just a fight involving either one of them.
Previously you would have loved a Gaara vs. Shino fight 😛?~ Figures you would have two of the best Sharingan users 😛, as well Danzo.
<.< Now if Obito was there I may have a sharingan user to vote for.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixYa know I don't think it ever mentions a Hyuuga being on a mission. Hinata's father wasn't in Konoha because he was out for a walk with Hanabi lol. And cursed Kiba has beaten the Byakugan in tracking. >.> Maybe I should rethink this.
You mean it's because they cannot destroy villains or anything that they are forgotten 😛.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixAll Amaterasu is, is just a flame. Sasuke's better at controlling it, and everbody knew Sasuke's eyes were more special than Itachi's. But the most we ever seen Itachi use it was holding back against Sasuke. And even then he was able to make it follow Sasuke, and burn through stuff. And he was dying at that. Besides engulfing Hachibi Sasuke's has done nothing impressive. And he's used it a lot since then.
That particular version was just fireballs and little flame iirc, but Sasuke is better than Itachi is known to be at using Amaterasu. Heck, he was able to cover and affect the Hachibi with it. I haven't seen Itachi dish out that much flame in one shot.
After all, Itachi has been able to use those MS techniques for years. Sasuke has had two of them for weeks at most, and he's already this good. He's going to surpass Itachi anyway 😬.
well also sasuke could end up fightin danzo and slowly take his eyes from him which is madrea plan and just before sasuke kills him, madrea does something to kill to steal his eyes so his "moonlight eye" can come to hand. or in the middle of the fight they find kabuto and danzo almost dies and his people make him heal donzo or something like and it release his powers stronger and destroying donzo. I dont know!
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Just the right arm and the right eye. Compliments of Shisui. It's how he was able to use that kickass jutsu and control Mifune.Sneaky; when you put it that way, Danzo did in fact technically lose his arm sly...Though you were talking about this chapter.
I know. I could be a sneaky little bastard, if I wanted. But, I'm not going to pretend that I didn't have a dumbass moment. 😆
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
None of them look anything like Itachi's MS. Itachi's did not have a black dot/pupil in the centre, nor did it have a circle surrounding the centre dot and connecting the tomoe. Itachi's MS tomoe were all fully connected to the centre dot.
No, they all look similar to his MS. However, I did a super close zoom in, auto-correction tools (to correct the artifacts as it blows up the image) and one thing that makes them all NOT like Itachi's MS is that fact the the outer 3 tomoe NEVER extend all the way to the center.
Here, lemme show you what I mean.
They look like a cross between Itachi's MS and 3 tomoe sharingan.
However, the tomoe are MUCH too large and the ring they connect is MUCH too thick to be a regular sharingan...which clearly has MUCH smaller tomoe and there's really not an actual black ring, bu it is little tiny slits forming a ring around the central portion.
However, I want to backpedal, if I may. I did say that it could just be really shitty drawing. F*ck, I could draw better and I'm definitely below average for an artist.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
3 definitely look like normal Sharingans.
The ones in his palm, in between the bandage wrappings, and just next to the bandage wrappings.
In each of those, there's at least one tomoe that looks like the tomoe in a normal one. Considering the Sharingan is always symmetric about the centre dot, the other two tomoe must also be the same.
K. But, they definitely do not look like normal 2 tomoe sharingans. None of them do. Again, that ring is too thick and the tomoe are MUCH too large.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
The other two are very sketchy/badly drawn, I'll admit. Though I can make out a proper tomoe in the centre one; we then have the black centre dot and the connecting circle which is also the case with the last one.
I agree.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Unless Danzo has somehow genetically experimented on these eyes and changed one or two tomoe in each eye, they are normal Sharingans as far as looks go.
Given the shitty drawings, that's actually the best description of what the f*** is really going on there. That would explain why the tomoe are so thick and long (no homo) compared to regular tomoes.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
As you did not post yours, I suppose it doesn't compare to mine, rite? amirite? im rite ja 313?
YUP! awesome
I never had a theory. Yours sounds fine, so we'll go with that until something proves you right or wrong.
Originally posted by Kento
=P Not a Gaara vs Shino just a fight involving either one of them.
<.< Now if Obito was there I may have a sharingan user to vote for.
Wut about Kakashi ya moron? 😛
Originally posted by Kento
Ya know I don't think it ever mentions a Hyuuga being on a mission. Hinata's father wasn't in Konoha because he was out for a walk with Hanabi lol. And cursed Kiba has beaten the Byakugan in tracking. >.> Maybe I should rethink this.
Exactly. They're too gentle (geddit?) for missions and fights.
Originally posted by Kento
All Amaterasu is, is just a flame. Sasuke's better at controlling it, and everbody knew Sasuke's eyes were more special than Itachi's. But the most we ever seen Itachi use it was holding back against Sasuke. And even then he was able to make it follow Sasuke, and burn through stuff. And he was dying at that. Besides engulfing Hachibi Sasuke's has done nothing impressive. And he's used it a lot since then.
Burn through stuff? That white snake caught on fire and it didn't burn up instantly. Sasuke was on fire for a few seconds before he activated the Oral Rebirth technique. Those flames are extremely dangerous because they can't be quelled by normal methods. Though it is still fire afaik, so if you cover it with enough sand or something, it should go out.
I also don't get how he could have been holding back with Amaterasu. Apart from putting less chakra into it or his eye being strained, but the latter isn't holding back.
(When did we first see Amaterasu properly anyway? Itachi vs. Sasuke?)
But fair enough, I'll concede, apart from the control, Sasuke's Amaterasu hasn't been as impressive as Itachi's as far as destruction goes.
Originally posted by dadudemonNo, they all look similar to his MS. However, I did a super close zoom in, auto-correction tools (to correct the artifacts as it blows up the image) and one thing that makes them all NOT like Itachi's MS is that fact the the outer 3 tomoe NEVER extend all the way to the center.
Here, lemme show you what I mean.
They look like a cross between Itachi's MS and 3 tomoe sharingan.
However, the tomoe are MUCH too large and the ring they connect is MUCH too thick to be a regular sharingan...which clearly has MUCH smaller tomoe and there's really not an actual black ring, bu it is little tiny slits forming a ring around the central portion.
True, but the Sharingans are very small in this drawing; he wouldn't be able to draw in relatively sized slits in a circle. It would appear (for the most part) as a continuous black line when the drawing is small.
Look at Sasuke's right sharingan in the previous page. That centre line appears solid and continuous as opposed to slitted. The left sharingan's ring appears slightly slitted but continuous for the most part.
Then there's that centre dot which is black here, but red in most MS.
Originally posted by dadudemon
However, I want to backpedal, if I may. I did say that it could just be really shitty drawing. F*ck, I could draw better and I'm definitely below average for an artist.
Let's see your drawings then big-guy 313.
Originally posted by dadudemon
K. But, they definitely do not look like normal 2 tomoe sharingans. None of them do. Again, that ring is too thick and the tomoe are MUCH too large.
Considering he drew them that small as opposed to the extremely large Sharingan drawings he normally does, he probably did f*** up the ring and the tomoe sizes. Even he can't remain that consistent with 16 small tomoe IMO.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Given the shitty drawings, that's actually the best description of what the f*** is really going on there. That would explain why the tomoe are so thick and long (no homo) compared to regular tomoes.
Or they are just normal tomoe made to look thick and long (ditto) because of the size of the Sharingan in that picture. Meh.
Originally posted by dadudemon
YUP! awesomeI never had a theory. Yours sounds fine, so we'll go with that until something proves you right or wrong.
Next chapter should be the one. Still, I want Sasuke to kick that fool's ass, he's taken so many Sharingans >__>.
Y'know, Ao didn't pick up on the extra Sharingans iirc. Did that metal seal thing prevent them from being detected? I wonder if there are any Byakugan's on that thing.
I know I'm the odd man out in this debate but I'm honeslty not that interested in this fight. I'll have to tune in a little more but I'm not seeing what's interesting other than Madara fighting a sharingan thief.
I'm more interested in how Sasuke's former peers are going to beat the crap out of him or vice versa.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixI still stand by my statement. =P Though Kakashi is alright.
Wut about Kakashi ya moron? 😛
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenixlol
Exactly. They're too gentle (geddit?) for missions and fights.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixBurn through fire, and the Toad stomach. It engulfs Sasuke as soon as it touches him, in less than two panels it's all over him. and the white snake was all but covered in two panels. Well the whole hyperbole aside, if it can burn through something that is fire proof Gaara's sand isn't going to stand much of a chance. At least not the little Gaara has on him at all times, and spread out to protect three people.
Burn through stuff? That white snake caught on fire and it didn't burn up instantly. Sasuke was on fire for a few seconds before he activated the Oral Rebirth technique. Those flames are extremely dangerous because they can't be quelled by normal methods. Though it is still fire afaik, so if you cover it with enough sand or something, it should go out.I also don't get how he could have been holding back with Amaterasu. Apart from putting less chakra into it or his eye being strained, but the latter isn't holding back.
(When did we first see Amaterasu properly anyway? Itachi vs. Sasuke?)
But fair enough, I'll concede, apart from the control, Sasuke's Amaterasu hasn't been as impressive as Itachi's as far as destruction goes.
I didn't mean holding back Amaterasu's power, but Itachi was holding back himself. He wasn't out to kill Sasuke. Though yea against Sasuke was the first time it was shown properly. That I can recall, since I only remember it being used once before that. Though Sasuke being weaker may account for the weaker Amaterasu. *shrugs* Or the fact it's coming out of the left eye.
yeah madara is boring atm, but it is only because he cant do anything but teleport. he stated that he is not complete, also i am thinking that the "toby" madara is actually kakashi's old friend with the goggles (i forget his name) and somehow madara is controlling him, or used a forbiden tech to become him like orochimaru, just a theory. bottom line though, i think that madara will be more entertaining when he gets his strength back
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
True, but the Sharingans are very small in this drawing; he wouldn't be able to draw in relatively sized slits in a circle. It would appear (for the most part) as a continuous black line when the drawing is small.
Look at Sasuke's right sharingan in the previous page. That centre line appears solid and continuous as opposed to slitted. The left sharingan's ring appears slightly slitted but continuous for the most part.Then there's that centre dot which is black here, but red in most MS.
Let's see your drawings then big-guy 313.
The sharingan they drew on Danzo's arms look more like a hybrid of Itachi's MS and a 3 tomoe Sharingan, than they do look like a regular 3 tomoe sharingan.
And, I did draw one. Much better one, IMO.
I set the timer for 30 minutes. When it went off, I wasn't allowed to draw anymore than this. Drawing the Sharingans is the hardest part, IMO. Free hand, this would have taken 10 minutes. Shading is easy...and I only just started on it. The little shading you see there was about 3 minutes worth of work. If you'll notice the original image has some very poor quality shading going on...just "pen strokes" to indicate an area was darker.
BTW, I did this drawing in MS Paint...at work. 😐 You'd think that they artists would put forth a little more effort considering I can put out a better quality image than they can....with a friggin MOUSE!
I agree with obito i thought that for the longest time but than obit half left body was crush where his right part was just showing. Which allowed kakashi to get his right eye implanted in him. Madara on the other hand still has his right eye.
Also how is it madara could put out the black flames but cant stop stupid poisonous bugs?
Originally posted by zslick
I agree with obito i thought that for the longest time but than obit half left body was crush where his right part was just showing. Which allowed kakashi to get his right eye implanted in him. Madara on the other hand still has his right eye.Also how is it madara could put out the black flames but cant stop stupid poisonous bugs?
Maybe he doesn't have awesome lightening affinity to shock the bugs into death in a split second like Kakashi and Sasuke.