Originally posted by King Kandy😆 It's true. Though 2 and 3 are debatable being black in Narutoverse > anything. Even Karui and Omoi was able to beat Naruto's talk no jutsu.
Kirabi and Raikage have resisted and beaten both Sharingan and Talk-no-jutsu. So I think in Naruto the tier system is something like:1. Being Black
2. Talk-no-jutsu
3. Sharingan
Originally posted by King KandyWell with the exception of Itachi and Minato the rest were least 30's when they died. Sasuke and Naruto got about 15 years to improve to get stronger.
Actually the #1 might be "being dead". Despite the claim that each generation surpasses the previous one, all the strongest characters either were dead before the story or died during it.
Originally posted by Kento
lolIf you loose one eye you loose a whole side of your vision though.
AFAIK, you lose depth perception and the angle of your Field of View is reduced. The former might be applicable, but the latter shouldn't, if both eyes give you a 360 degree Field of View.
Originally posted by Kento
😛 Kakashi pulls him under the ground again just like the first time they fought, and then Kamui's Sasukes head off.
Originally posted by Kento
lol I guess he did still have his sharingan on as Deidara was saying that.
Yep. He also had it on just as he was coming out of Manda. So he basically used like 3 jutsu (Summoning, Genjutsu & Space-time jutsu) in addition to his Sharingan being active. He was hardly out of chakra, but he was banged up because of his self-chidoris.
Originally posted by Kento
I'm just wondering how he destroys that whole mountain area with it, and doesn't get hurt by it. Nor Zetsu...who really needs to show himself after being, not dead.
PIS? Or maybe it was another mountain-top that was destroyed?
Originally posted by Kento
Of course, Sasuke > everybody at the end even if they are above him at the start.
Isn't he awesome 😛?
Originally posted by Kento
When did the sharingan not work on Naruto?
VotE. At one point, Naruto was too fast for 2 tomoe Sharingan. I think that shroud of fox chakra helped as well.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixI guess. lol
AFAIK, you lose depth perception and the angle of your Field of View is reduced. The former might be applicable, but the latter shouldn't, if both eyes give you a 360 degree Field of View.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixKakashi will break any pathetic genjutsu Sasuke tries by using a Kage Bunshin while he's underground. lol 1000 years of death.
Nahh, Sasuke will reverse with a genjutsu and Kakashi will be the one underground 😛.
He's better off using 1000 years of Death. That "jutsu" is pure WIN.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixDid he use a space-time jutsu himself or did he just do the summoning space-time jutsu and have Manda leave?
Yep. He also had it on just as he was coming out of Manda. So he basically used like 3 jutsu (Summoning, Genjutsu & Space-time jutsu) in addition to his Sharingan being active. He was hardly out of chakra, but he was banged up because of his self-chidoris.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixIt went down on Itachi though.
PIS? Or maybe it was another mountain-top that was destroyed?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix😛 Nope the manga should just be named Sasuke.
Isn't he awesome 😛?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenixthe 2 tomoe doesn't predict anything though. And Sasuke only used the sharingan to copy techniques never for anything like genjutsu. The shroud helped against 3 tomoe. But still Sasuke won, and even with Naruto one-tailed, and using talk no jutsu.
VotE. At one point, Naruto was too fast for 2 tomoe Sharingan. I think that shroud of fox chakra helped as well.
Originally posted by Kento
Kakashi will break any pathetic genjutsu Sasuke tries by using a Kage Bunshin while he's underground.
Pfft, Sasuke will simply create and use genjutsu that can target the original user even if it is used on a clone 😛.
So when Sasuke uses genjutsu on the clone, Kakashi himself will fall to the genjutsu 😛.
Originally posted by Kento
lol 1000 years of death.
The ultimate jutsu yeah. Target the posterior of someone, even being black can't stop such a jutsu.
Originally posted by Kento
Did he use a space-time jutsu himself or did he just do the summoning space-time jutsu and have Manda leave?
Originally posted by Kento
It went down on Itachi though.
Probably PIS then. Or Itachi was on another mountain-top. Meh.
Originally posted by Kento
😛 Nope the manga should just be named Sasuke.
Then the manga would focus more on Naruto ehh?
Originally posted by Kento
the 2 tomoe doesn't predict anything though. And Sasuke only used the sharingan to copy techniques never for anything like genjutsu. The shroud helped against 3 tomoe. But still Sasuke won, and even with Naruto one-tailed, and using talk no jutsu.
The Shroud still stopped the Sharingan from working properly on Naruto though 😛.
Originally posted by dadudemon
And, that's cool that Naruto is going to train even more and get even stronger.
Just before his fight with Pain, Jiraiya mentions a jutsu that Naruto is to complete. It could be Rasengan, but he doesn't mention it as such, so IMO it's probably a completely different technique, one that hasn't been revealed yet. It's also implied that he'll need the Yang Chakra of the Kyuubi.
So yeah, he's probably going to train and perfect another technique. I just hope to high heaven that it isn't Rasengan-based.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixKakashi will just use his Kamui to teleport between dimensions, and then come up from above, and pull Sasuke's head in, then close the hole severing it before Sasuke even knows the match has started.
Pfft, Sasuke will simply create and use genjutsu that can target the original user even if it is used on a clone 😛.
So when Sasuke uses genjutsu on the clone, Kakashi himself will fall to the genjutsu 😛.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixYes, the first few are right. But summoning itself is a space-time jutsu, and the summonings leaving. It never really explains at all. And Sasuke's never used a space-time jutsu before or after.
I think he summoned Manda, put him under genjutsu, hopped into his mouth, and then used a space-time ninjutsu.
Manda and Sasuke probably would have been obliterated if Sasuke hadn't teleported them out of there.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixOr the manga would be more aptly named. One of the two. lol Would rather neither one got the focus. Split it between all the rookies and team Gai.
Then the manga would focus more on Naruto ehh?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix😛 Sasuke still say Naruto's movements. He just didn't see the chakra's movements. lol So it was like a 50/50 thing.
The Shroud still stopped the Sharingan from working properly on Naruto though 😛.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Just before his fight with Pain, Jiraiya mentions a jutsu that Naruto is to complete. It could be Rasengan, but he doesn't mention it as such, so IMO it's probably a completely different technique, one that hasn't been revealed yet. It's also implied that he'll need the Yang Chakra of the Kyuubi.
So yeah, he's probably going to train and perfect another technique. I just hope to high heaven that it isn't Rasengan-based.
Originally posted by King KandyBut that really had nothing to do with the frog scroll or kyuubi. Speaking of I still want to know where that frog scroll went, and how something related to Kyuubi is going to work out when Naruto is trying to not use Kyuubi.
I'm pretty sure it was just the throwable rasenshuriken.
Originally posted by Kento
Kakashi will just use his Kamui to teleport between dimensions, and then come up from above, and pull Sasuke's head in, then close the hole severing it before Sasuke even knows the match has started.
Meh, Sasuke will just develop the ability to drain the chakra of anyone who looks at his MS 😛. No more chakra for Kakashi.
Originally posted by Kento
Yes, the first few are right. But summoning itself is a space-time jutsu, and the summonings leaving. It never really explains at all. And Sasuke's never used a space-time jutsu before or after.
Well, yeah, but the snake was under his genjutsu, so I don't know whether it was the snake that left, or whether it was Sasuke that used a space-time jutsu.
Though yeah, you're probably right, it was probably the snake.
Originally posted by Kento
Or the manga would be more aptly named. One of the two. lol Would rather neither one got the focus. Split it between all the rookies and team Gai.
Then the story wouldn't get anywhere 😛.
Originally posted by Kento
😛 Sasuke still say Naruto's movements. He just didn't see the chakra's movements. lol So it was like a 50/50 thing.
Meh, it still didn't work fully on naruto. Besides, Itachi has probably given him the power to resist the Sharingan or something >__>.
Originally posted by King Kandy
What I want to know is what exactly the significance supposedly was to all the Pein bodies being people Jiraiya had met. I think Kishi had some important plot point based around that and then just forgot.