The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naruto Post-Sage Mode Training has hax powers in Sage Mode or Kyuubi-chakra mode. Any version before that does not have hax powers; not unless those two somehow anger him to the point whereby Kyuubi comes out.

~ Bringing up Hinata like that could be seen as flaming, but meh, I like it.

lol I actually don't think any Naruto before Sage Mode could really beat them, without Kyuubi mode.

Blax mentioned Hinata first, was just following suit. If he's going to downplay one of my favorite characters(Chiyo) I'll do that same with his. 😛

Originally posted by killermover
Sakura and Chiyo are the weakest duo in the Naruto verse when it comes to roundabout tatics against ninja's that specialize in actual taijutsu + ninjutsu power scaling.

Hidan and Kakuzu could defeat them

Sasuke, Suigetsu and Juugo could defeat them

Gai and Kakashi can beat them.

Naruto and Jiraya could beat them

Yea, if you put a duo of S-class (or in Hebi/Taka's case, an S and 2 Jonin types) against an elderly low-S and a special jonin level, you're going to find a quite one-sided outcome.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to prove though.

Chiyo + Sakura as a duo were supposed to face one S-class, one who they were particularly well suited against.

And Q99 I do hope you know that Sakura's and Chiyo reading Sasori's movements is something all ninjas can do right. Hell reading and anticipating movements are something genins learn in the academy.

Read them well enough to be significantly useful in dodging to the extent it aided that pair? No way. There's degrees of reading, and few could do so against someone as good as Sasori very well.

It was specifically mentioned that Chiyo's mastery of puppetry allowed her to avoid by reading his hand movements (not many could do that), and it took Sakura several minutes of aided dodging before she got use to it, and Sakura's got pretty good analytical abilities.

And even with that they actually got hit a lot all in all.

Hm, additional topic: Iruka's class is the elite class, isn't it?

The bulk of those mook ninja likely go to separate ones, but Iruka's the guy they assigned to teach the Uchiha, the Hyuga, the Ino/Shika/Cho trio (all influential clans, likewise Kiba and Shino's families and maybe even Sakura's for all we know), and I think Konohamaru after, and of course the graduates are all assigned to top jonin. So while Naruto may be worst in class, probably most classes aren't nearly the same level.

Hinata could do better than Sakura against Sasori in terms of reading attacks. She's better than Sakura when it comes to insight in terms of learning and analyzing attack patterns.

lol.

Hinata could do better than Sakura against Sasori in terms of reading attacks. She's better than Sakura when it comes to insight in terms of learning and analyzing attack patterns.

The **** based on? Her ability to stand in the background and mumble alot?

I love Naruto. I think right now my favorite character still has to be Rock Lee. Even tho you do not see much of him at this point in the story, he has a dedication that none can compare to.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The **** based on? Her ability to stand in the background and mumble alot?

Originally posted by killermover
Hinata could do better than Sakura against Sasori in terms of reading attacks. She's better than Sakura when it comes to insight in terms of learning and analyzing attack patterns.

I actually am almost inclined to accept this. I wonder if I've gone insane?

Hinata does have an advantage Sakura does not. Hinata can see the chakra strings of the puppets and could in theory react and dodge in a way similar to Sakura....in theory. However, Sakura using the fingers as an indicator for Sasori's movements accomplishes the same thing, and it's more impressive that Sakura can do what Hinata can only do in theory using her Byakugan. But you're statement is still incorrect, as Hinata's Byakugan does not represent her learning and analytical skills. It's just a tool to be used to enhance them. Sakura without the aid of dojutsu has demonstrated better analytical skills than Hinata, who in her own defense is not shown enough to actually have feats in this area.

Impartial enough?

Becuase she can see through stuff at a 360 degree angle, not becuase of actual skill or ability.

^Ninja'd!

Originally posted by Nephthys
Becuase she can see through stuff at a 360 degree angle, not becuase of actual skill or ability.

^Ninja'd!

TAA, Karin can do the same thing Sakura can do, even better. So Karin > Sakura?

Hinata has all of two fights in the series. One involved Neji toying with her, the other involved Pain easily disposing of her.

Her analytical abilities in combat have never been hinted at.

Leave.

Originally posted by killermover
the tool is only as good as the user. Obviously, Hinata trains her byukugan insight abilities and scouting capabilities. Actually, she's works harder than Sakura because she doesn't have a genius level growth acceleration like Neji or Sakura.

TAA, Karin can do the same thing Sakura can do, even better. So Karin > Sakura?

And the user has no feats for her analytical skills. She kept track of Madara, yes, but that's what she was on the team for. To see long distances and examine the environment in 360 degrees. Sakura was never born with the eyes to do this things. But that's not really analyzing at the same level as Sakura keeping tabs on 10 fingers at a distance while fighting for her life. And I couldn't care less who worked harder.

When did Karin ever show the same analytical skills as Sakura. She is a chakra sensor, nothing more. If you're referring to the Danzo fight, Karin wasn't getting attacked as she observed the arm, so it's not the same.

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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And the user has no feats for her analytical skills. She kept track of Madara, yes, but that's what she was on the team for. To see long distances and examine the environment in 360 degrees. Sakura was never born with the eyes to do this things. But that's not really analyzing at the same level as Sakura keeping tabs on 10 fingers at a distance while fighting for her life. And I couldn't care less who worked harder.

When did Karin ever show the same analytical skills as Sakura. She is a chakra sensor, nothing more. If you're referring to the Danzo fight, Karin wasn't getting attacked as she observed the arm, so it's not the same.

Karin basically told Sasuke what to do and read Danzou's movements and abilites like a recorder and strategically sorted out Danzou's abilites and opening for Sasuke to win, without her, Sasuke wouldn't have won and figured out Danzou's secret.

Her observation skills > Sakura's.

The reason why it's called a blood limit is because it's an ability that no one else can replicate.

So no.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hinata has all of two fights in the series. One involved Neji toying with her, the other involved Pain easily disposing of her.

Her analytical abilities in combat have never been hinted at.

Leave.

Originally posted by killermover
To tell the truth neither of the konoha kunoichi's have shown analytical abilites or fighting prowess in the manga.

Only Sakura. And she's the main female.

lol. It's Kishi's fault, Nemebro. Hinata's really good, Kishi just hasn't shown it.

Hinata used her Byakugan to see that one-third of Kabuto had been taken over by Orochimaru's remains. Later, when the squad regrouped, they came across Tobi, who appeared to be blocking their path to Sasuke. During the battle that followed, Hinata took the role of stationary scout, using her Byakugan to follow Tobi's chakra signal. When Tobi left after receiving word that Sasuke had killed Itachi, Kakashi instructed Hinata to locate the site of their battle.

She does have anaylitcal abilites, she needs the byukugan to see and depict out of the ordinary events that are not forseeable to the untrained eye.