Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Bee being stronger than A and Naruto is nothing new. However, to this extent is beyond ridiculous. Kinda makes you feel bad for Sasuke when Madara told him he had to fight Bee in hindsight.
Maybe it was Madara's failed attempt to teach Sasuke humility by being beaten up by Bee. The fact that Sasuke's first time with the MS was actually a downgrade from his Hebi powers makes it even worse.
And just remember, Naruto's currently the strongest ninja Konoha has right now.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Maybe it was Madara's failed attempt to teach Sasuke humility by being beaten up by Bee. The fact that Sasuke's first time with the MS was actually a downgrade from his Hebi powers makes it even worse.And just remember, Naruto's currently the strongest ninja Konoha has right now.
No, not really. He rather wanted the Hachibi.
No feats for Naruto at the moment. Tsunade and others have better feats than the current Naruto. Bee is stronger than all of them of course.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
No, not really. He rather wanted the Hachibi.No feats for Naruto at the moment. Tsunade and others have better feats than the current Naruto. Bee is stronger than all of them of course.
Well why wouldn't he just send Pein or Kisame to go get it to begin with? And that's how I came to that conclusion.
Sage prep Naruto could probably beat most if not all of Konoha's ninja. Hell even Kakashi(who's contender for being the best in konoha) acknoledges Naruto's progress.
Current Naruto is a scrub though.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Bee being stronger than A and Naruto is nothing new. However, to this extent is beyond ridiculous. Kinda makes you feel bad for Sasuke when Madara told him he had to fight Bee in hindsight.
I know eh? Put someone who just got his ass handed to him & hasn't yet recovered, up against a foe that is sure to hand him his ass again.
Though in Sasuke's defense, he's been the only one so far to have hurt Bee, and Bee apparently thinks he's the second strongest foe he's ever fought.
Also, Kisame > Bee > Raikage. awesome
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
No, not really. He rather wanted the Hachibi.No feats for Naruto at the moment. Tsunade and others have better feats than the current Naruto. Bee is stronger than all of them of course.
Nah, Tsunade should still be > Bee as far as strength goes. Sage Mode Naruto is the strongest when it comes to lifting strength, but we don't know if it correlates with striking strength.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well why wouldn't he just send Pein or Kisame to go get it to begin with? And that's how I came to that conclusion.Sage prep Naruto could probably beat most if not all of Konoha's ninja. Hell even Kakashi(who's contender for being the best in konoha) acknoledges Naruto's progress.
Current Naruto is a scrub though.
Pain was tasked with the Kyuubi. Kisame though...dunno. Either way, since Sasuke agreed to work with Akatsuki, he had to capture one of the two remaining Bijuu. Plot dictated that Sasuke couldn't yet fight Naruto, so the only choice was Bee.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I would like to add to Bee surpassing A with a bit of a weird thing I just thought of:Bee beat A in his base form while Naruto couldn't do anything in his strongest form. To add insult to injury Naruto, as of now anyway, is perhaps the strongest ninja in his village. Konoha must be seeing dark days now that Naruto is pretty much at the top of his village forces.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well why wouldn't he just send Pein or Kisame to go get it to begin with? And that's how I came to that conclusion.
I certainly wasn't expecting Bee's lariat to beat A's so fast this far into the little fight. glad to see that Tsunade supports them though. sure she does support Naruto, but never like this.
wonder who would be considered the strongest ninja in the alliance's forces other than Naruto and Killer Bee.
Originally posted by King KandyIt is probable that lifting the island was done using mostly his flight technique, and the Naruto wiki agrees.
Onoki is said to be the most powerful Kage... he can lift an island and blow then to molecules. I'd say he qualifies.
Which makes sense. Since Kabuto noted Onoki's punch was weak (Or it might have been Deidara who said that, not sure), and well... Both are not that durable, not to the extent of calling someone who lifts an island turtle "weak". Deidara is proven to not be that durable, lol.
Though Onoki being most powerful would not surprise me at all. Where did you read that though?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I know eh? Put someone who just got his ass handed to him & hasn't yet recovered, up against a foe that is sure to hand him his ass again.
Though in Sasuke's defense, he's been the only one so far to have hurt Bee, and Bee apparently thinks he's the second strongest foe he's ever fought.Also, Kisame > Bee > Raikage. awesome
Nah, Tsunade should still be > Bee as far as strength goes. Sage Mode Naruto is the strongest when it comes to lifting strength, but we don't know if it correlates with striking strength.
Considering A fought Minato, that is a nice compliment. And way to say eh Mr. Stereotype!
Nah, Bee was too busy worried about his master and the raccoon to give his best. Tailed Beast Bomb wasn't even shown. 😛
Tsunade is stronger than Bee. Guy might be too. But in a fight, neither would actually beat Bee. Sage Mode Naruto is stronger than everyone yes, but probably wouldn't beat him.
Edit: Out of the current Kage and SA, Onoki certainly has the wank on his side if blowing up an island is to be believed. I wanna see it though. I wish they'd get to the fight with Muu already.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I know eh? Put someone who just got his ass handed to him & hasn't yet recovered, up against a foe that is sure to hand him his ass again.
Though in Sasuke's defense, he's been the only one so far to have hurt Bee, and Bee apparently thinks he's the second strongest foe he's ever fought.
And Sasuke had a whole team for backup. Two more jonin level ninja plus a healbot count for a lot.
Also, Kisame > Bee > Raikage. awesome
Kisame's extra-uber against biju due to that sword.
And now Bee has the sword too!
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Killerbee is the strongest ninja on the alliance side period, even with Onoki around. At worst, top two.
A had him holed up training the beast ball, and instead he went and surpassed A in taijutsu *and* has the beast ball 😄
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Considering A fought Minato, that is a nice compliment. And way to say eh Mr. Stereotype!Nah, Bee was too busy worried about his master and the raccoon to give his best. Tailed Beast Bomb wasn't even shown. 😛
Tsunade is stronger than Bee. Guy might be too. But in a fight, neither would actually beat Bee. Sage Mode Naruto is stronger than everyone yes, but probably wouldn't beat him.
Edit: Out of the current Kage and SA, Onoki certainly has the wank on his side if blowing up an island is to be believed. I wanna see it though. I wish they'd get to the fight with Muu already.
And he fought A as well. That means Sasuke is > either Minato or A, eh. 313
Please, Kisame would have just used his Giant Shark Missile to send that Tailed Beast Bomb back into the Hachibi's mouth, and Kisame was only focused on draining Bee's chakra, not killing him.
Naturally. I thought you were referring to pure strength though.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Who is the best genius of the bunch: Minato, Bee, or Itachi?😖hifty:
Minato or Itachi. Sasuke for second 😖hifty:
Bee is just badass awesome, not badass awesome genius like the other two, but he gets extra points for seeing through Minato's attack, and pwning A (& indirectly, Naruto as well), all in the same chapter.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Still Minato....because he doesn't need a magical eyeball or a biju to make him awesome.
He has a hax tech, which he admittedly invented, but it's nearly the same as mastering a magical eyeball or a bijuu to the extent the other two did.
Originally posted by Q99
And Sasuke had a whole team for backup. Two more jonin level ninja plus a healbot count for a lot.
True enough, but only Sasuke had any experience fighting a Jinchurikii.
Or if you're referring to the strongest foe part, he just mentioned Sasuke.
Originally posted by Q99
Kisame's extra-uber against biju due to that sword.And now Bee has the sword too!
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Killerbee is the strongest ninja on the alliance side period, even with Onoki around. At worst, top two.
A had him holed up training the beast ball, and instead he went and surpassed A in taijutsu *and* has the beast ball 😄
People with Bijuu-level chakra really. I'm thinking people like A & Naruto would also be at the same disadvantage as far as stamina was concerned.
He has yet to use it though, which is the sad part. But yeah, now he's uber, and crazy strong. Easily a contender for strongest ninja in the SA.
However, he cannot fuse with it, which was one of Kisame's trump cards.
He's surpassed him when it comes to the Lariat & strength IMO. I'd say A is still more dangerous in pure taijutsu, though he has lost his stronger arm, and Bee has those swords of his.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He has a hax tech, which he admittedly invented, but it's nearly the same as mastering a magical eyeball or a bijuu to the extent the other two did.
I disagree.
The magical eyeball WAS mastered to a degree that was super high for an Uchiha but it's still a magical eyeball. It does not seem that it requires much effort beyond extreme amounts of hatred or other strong feelings. That does not require "genius" at all. Where Itachi was a genius is HOW he used his magical eyeball such as ultra fast hand seals to fool other Sharingan users, finger-only genjutsus, etc.
Bee's bijuu mastery was explained: he had something to fill the "hole". 😐 (Holy CRAP does that sound ghey.) His mastery was a combination of his skills AND the Kumogakure's mastery over the infusion process and training their Jins.
Minato? He mastered a Time-Space jutsu to such an extant that a NATURAL user (again, due to a magic eyeball) was beaten by him. He also invented a new tech and was working on the rasenshuriken.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Since Bee is currently 35 and he went up against Minato when he was still a Jonin, I'd wager he'd be at least Naruto's age or a year older.
Naruto is 16 or possibly 17 (I don't know how much time has passed since the ts).
Minato became Hokage a year after Kakashi Gaiden.
He was in his same uniform during Kakashi Gaiden as he is in the flashbacks.
Therefore, he's about a year or two before Hokage-ship. He had Naruto around a year after becoming Hokage.
So 35-(15+2-3years) = 17-18.
So pretty much your answer, sir. 😄