Demonic Phoenix
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Originally posted by dadudemon
Regardless of it obviously being a tool: one is a natural occuring "tool" and the other is not.The naturally occuring tool does not require nearly as much effort as the others. Get mad during puberty. Activate sharingan. Boom: you have access to a short-term precognition system.
Use the eyes a lot...get madder during puberty...boom: it's fully activated.
To activate one of the most powerful jutsus in the entire series, Susanoo, no training is required. To use Amaterasu? Same thing just use the correct eyeball: no training required.
So what have we learned? Sure, it's a tool...but one requires a LOT less than the other.
Itachi? He took things a step further and added the mirror shield. Sasuke added in shape manipulation to amaterasu. These are the "intelligent" aspects of their uses.
Itachi's "intelligent" examples are almost all external of his eyeballs' power. Meaning, he added stuff to the utility of his MS Susano'o. Not the susano'o itself. He added stuff to his genjutsu abilities...not the naturally occuring ultimate genjutsu tech from his eyeballs.
Again, you are confusing activation of naturally occuring tool for mastery of it.
Sasuke fully activated his Sharingan against Naruto. Does he have the same mastery there, that he did in Part 2?
If no training/skill is required for Susano'o, I wonder why it is that Susano'o is so rare for those that achieve Mangekyou. If simply using the eyes eventually gave you Susano'o down the road, nearly every Mangekyou user would have it, yet that is not the case.
Shape manipulation is tied to his eyeball.
We also don't know if Itachi's Tsukuyomi has always been that powerful. Given the way Kakashi has gradually mastered Kamui, and Sasuke has mastered Amaterasu to the extent that he has, I'm inclined to think that Itachi had mastered Tsukuyomi to that extent.
You saying that the Magical Eyeball occurs near-naturally does not change the fact that Magical Eyeball -
a) takes skill & intelligence to master, and to use effectively in battle
b) is no different from any other jutsu or ninja tool in the end.
Yes, creating & mastering FTG is above mastering a Sharingan, and I never implied otherwise.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Genjutsu can target multiple people.
Right, but can it target people outside the range of every chakra sensor in the Shinobi Alliance, to the point where those in control don't just fall asleep or get immobilized, but are controlled like puppets?
Originally posted by dadudemon
This type of post does not make sense in the context of what you said and what I said in reply to it. You certianly implied there was high-level of skill/intelligence involved in their level of mastery.
My intentions were to imply that there was skill involved, not pure intelligence. I'll even quote what I wrote just above that post.
Bee is just badass awesome, not badass awesome genius like the other two
Originally posted by dadudemon
So you don't think he wasn't working on perfecting the rasengan into something like the rasenshuriken, huh?It really doesn't matter, actually, as he was trying to develop SOMETHING after the rasengan which would put it as a a super S class tech. That was the point. Are you nitpicking just because I said "rasenshuriken"? If so, laaaaaaaame.
You said Rasenshuriken. I'm no psychic. I cannot know what you intended unless you state as such.
But yes, I was nitpicking. 313