Originally posted by King Kandy
Actually, that was my interpretation as well... I dismissed it as too ridiculous, but it would fit observations.
That wouldn't make any sense, how would Naruto go from super-speed to FTG in less than days worth of training in hi new form.
I also want to know how Shikaku has yet to solve the Zetsu problem when Sakura already figured out what he was doing. Come to think of it, they could've prevented this all together by comparring obsevations of Zetsu's power from previous encounters.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenixmoot point, he already used several tails to match the power of level one raiton armour when decapitating the zetsu-kisame.
That entire incident was PIS. Bee beating out A's Lariat with his base mode Lariat, when he previously failed to budge a standing A, and Naruto suddenly dodging A's full speed punch? PIS.How do you think he'd fare against Bee's Bijuu chakra Cloaked Lariats, and his V2 Lariat?
this new heart thing was some PIS x element naruto and bee made up these past few chapters. tnj and hnj will overpower even the overpowered madara
The first time it was in midair. You can't dodge.
The second was a test to see if A could keep up if he went a little faster. After that, Naruto appeared to be preparing to fight until Bee got in the way.
The third was done while A was flashbacking. No need to go full speed if he is distracted. Didn't work.
The fourth was when Bee had him caught up. No need to go full speed when your opponent is tied up. Didn't work.
The fifth time was done because he knew A was no longer ****ing around and he resolved that he would not get Tsunade involved so he decided to go all out with the speed.
His full speed is a Yellow Flash. He only did that at the end. We know he's been able to go at such a speed since Kisame. But he probably didn't want to do it, subconsciously anyway, because such speed is hard to control and he broke his ankle last time.
He didn't develop any new speed here. Meaning he was, whether aware of it or not, holding back.
Naruto did kind of have trouble blocking A's blows and noted his strength. Naruto still didn't do he one thing that Bee did surpass his strength 😎
Speaking of which, it's a good point to bring exaclty how Bee went from having to use cloaks to match A to surpassing his strength in just his base form.
Wonder why Naruto tries to defend Tsunade whenever she's getting ready to fight....chivalry perhaps?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
So? He still has far more chakra than most ninja, even without 'powering up', and Karin notes that it is 'big'.
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I see what you did there.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
And you are giving chakra an attribute it does not seem to possess. Either Naruto is an astute chakra sensor like he is in Sage Mode, or he's a poor chakra sensor, for not being able to detect someone with a massive amount of chakra, which would make his chakra sensing capabilities, if he has any, pretty useless in most cases.
Freaking out is tied to emotions, not chakra.
That's the exact same thing I wanted to say to you: you're giving chakra attributes that it doesn't seem to posses.
And, based on how you worded...it's only useless IF he's around one of the most powerful resting chakra leveled people. 🙂
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
So Bee somehow overpowering A with a purely taijutsu attack in Bee's case at the time, means that he has more chakra? In addition, that thing was PIS. He's somehow able to go from being unable to budge A, to withstanding A's Lariat and overpowering A, in a minute?
Yes, that's exactly what that means. Unless you can prove that B's chakra control is that of Sakura's and not more like that of A's (just raw power oozing out at all times like Kenpachi and Ichigo's rieryoku.)
Lastly, yes, that's exactly what that means.
Wow, so, yeah, I agree with both points.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Not before she saw the Hachibi at least, which paralyzed her with fear, and also surprised her with the amount of chakra it had. She might have run into Jinchuurikii, but her reaction to the Hachibi suggests that it was the first time she had seen a Bijuu. She also trembles when Raikage's chakra levels hit Bijuu levels.
This is the Hachibi: arguably the second most powerful Tailed Best by a significant margin. It was also being weilded by THE most adept host. Compare that to the other hosts which did not have his mastery, skills, and power.
And since she "trembled" a second time, this is obviously a trait she has: a pansy. My conclusions: you've proven my point and established reasons for why your point was wrong.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Or Naruto could not have been going full speed at all during the fight.
Obvious reason is obvious. Why is this lost on everyone?
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
The first time it was in midair. You can't dodge.The second was a test to see if A could keep up if he went a little faster. After that, Naruto appeared to be preparing to fight until Bee got in the way.
The third was done while A was flashbacking. No need to go full speed if he is distracted. Didn't work.
The fourth was when Bee had him caught up. No need to go full speed when your opponent is tied up. Didn't work.
The fifth time was done because he knew A was no longer ****ing around and he resolved that he would not get Tsunade involved so he decided to go all out with the speed.
Yes, this is similar to what I was thinking.
Not once did Naruto have a full-on death punch that he could NOT handle against Raikage. It wasn't until the last one that the punch was so fast that Naruto didn't have enough time to get his defenses up. It's quite obvious that the last punch, when it was directly stated by the Raikage, was his best. Naruto also has a very good reason NOT to go all-out against Raikage: that's a dangerous situation and hurintg/killing someone he is trying to befriend is the OPPOSITE of what he's trying to ultimately accomplish in the ninja world. Naruto is not an idiot like he used to be.
Originally posted by Q99
Also, more speed = more power used and more possible strain on the body (if that matters), you don't necessarily want to always go at max.A doesn't normally amp up to absolute max like he just did, Naruto was simply acting in a similar fashion.
hmm
That makes sense.
I believe AA commented on that, as well. The first time, he almost broke his ankle...and that was the time that B commented on him being as fast as Minato. It wasn't until his last exchange with A that he was commented as being as fast as Minato, so he was obviously holding back.
Well, personally I think Naruto pulled the feat by sheer speed, BUT since Kishi loves to give random upgrades to his characters, it's possible that he just learned by tapping into his Mom's/Dad's chakra or something. Which would be absolutely lame, but Kishi has done the "plot device/chakra lend/jutsu teaching" stuff before.