The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Kento1,600 pages

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well Juugo is cool and Suigetsu is not. So that is why I like how he beat Suigetsu. 😐

I do agree that certain Biju were punked much too easily. The only one who actually managed to fight and fvck up an Akatsuki member was Gaara. There is some hype being built up for this guy though, and in legend his beast is the second strongest, so I doubt he will be punked as easily.

Yeah that is true, just cause someone has a Biju doesn't mean they are automatically 1337. For example, Gaara has the weakest beast, but he has shown to be probably the strongest host.

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True. I wouldn't doubt that some kind of plot device comes up that makes Sasuke win. Most of his wins since Orochimaru have been. I guess Sasuke being hinted at as to having the same power to control the demons as Madara doesn't look good for the 8-tails either if he uses the power.

Hmm I wonder how Gaara before he looses the demon stacks up to Sasuke before he got the MS. Because Deidara only won because of tricking Gaara, (Gaara wasn't even using his strongest form though I guess against Deidara defense was smarter) and Sasuke only won because Deidara couldn't do anything to him.

Originally posted by Kento
The ones it showed they never really had much trouble with. Just because one has a demon in them doesn't mean they can control that power also. Naruto and Gaara are perfect examples, and really the only ones that have been shown a lot. Naruto may have the nine-tails in him but I'd also wager he's one of the weaker hosts.

Well, when Naruto has the 4 tail cloak, he's pretty much the strongest on the entire planet. I highly doubt any type of genjutsus would work on him.

I was referring to Gaara effing up Deidara. I'm sure there had to be others that put up a really good fight. Gaara's is the weakest...

I could be wrong and Kishi may have only planned for Gaara and Naruto to have any sort of tangible control over their demons.

Originally posted by Kento
Hmm I wonder how Gaara before he looses the demon stacks up to Sasuke before he got the MS. Because Deidara only won because of tricking Gaara, (Gaara wasn't even using his strongest form though I guess against Deidara defense was smarter) and Sasuke only won because Deidara couldn't do anything to him.

I must say, the anime fight between Deidara and Gaara was epic. It was really cool.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, when Naruto has the 4 tail cloak, he's pretty much the strongest on the entire planet. I highly doubt any type of genjutsus would work on him.

I was referring to Gaara effing up Deidara. I'm sure there had to be others that put up a really good fight. Gaara's is the weakest...

I could be wrong and Kishi may have only planned for Gaara and Naruto to have any sort of tangible control over their demons.

I must say, the anime fight between Deidara and Gaara was epic. It was really cool.

Well power isn't really the end all be all in Narutoverse though and genjutsu would be one of those things that I think would stop 4-tail Naruto. A Jiraiya was able to stop the 4-tailed Naruto. But Naruto's lack of skill makes him a weak host. While this new training will probably make him a lot more powerful I doubt he's going to get more skilled because Naruto is just naturally bad even though he trains non-stop. It's why Jiraiya taught him Rasengan. He doesn't really have the skill or attention span to learn seals.

Yet Gaara may have the weakest demon but his host was actually pretty powerful without actually using the demon power. And like I said just because somebody is more powerful doesn't mean much when somebody can have moves that completely negate anything you do or have has a style that is strong against what you do. Was it ever actually said the more tails = stronger? I though Chiyo said they all have unlimited power when she explains it to Naruto and them. The two-tailed...or three I can't remember. The cat had control over hers. She even went into a form like Naruto. The only other one shown that I remember was the one Deidara and Madara fought but it didn't have a host.

🙁 I haven't seen the anime since Sasuke beat Naruto at VotE. I should watch the episodes with the fights that I liked. Gaara/Deidara being one.

Gaara/Deidera was okay.

But what I'd really recommend is the Sakura/Chiyo vs. Sasori fight. I got a lot of respect for Sakura after I watched that fight animated.

Originally posted by Kento
Well power isn't really the end all be all in Narutoverse though and genjutsu would be one of those things that I think would stop 4-tail Naruto. A Jiraiya was able to stop the 4-tailed Naruto. But Naruto's lack of skill makes him a weak host. While this new training will probably make him a lot more powerful I doubt he's going to get more skilled because Naruto is just naturally bad even though he trains non-stop. It's why Jiraiya taught him Rasengan. He doesn't really have the skill or attention span to learn seals.

Yet Gaara may have the weakest demon but his host was actually pretty powerful without actually using the demon power. And like I said just because somebody is more powerful doesn't mean much when somebody can have moves that completely negate anything you do or have has a style that is strong against what you do. Was it ever actually said the more tails = stronger? I though Chiyo said they all have unlimited power when she explains it to Naruto and them. The two-tailed...or three I can't remember. The cat had control over hers. She even went into a form like Naruto. The only other one shown that I remember was the one Deidara and Madara fought but it didn't have a host.

🙁 I haven't seen the anime since Sasuke beat Naruto at VotE. I should watch the episodes with the fights that I liked. Gaara/Deidara being one.

Well, Naruto couldn't be pierced by that uber blade of Orochimaru's.

And yes, the more tails Naruto makes, the more powerful he becomes but the less control he has.

I don't think simple mind tricks would work on a 4 tailed Naruto. You can dispel genjutsus with chakra control. I highly doubt something as little as that would have an effect on 4 tailed Naruto...don't you think Oro would have tried it against Naruto instead of weakening himself in a futile fight? It would appear the Naruto is almost invulnerable when in his 4 tailed form. He seems to be controllable only by the Uchiha and Yamato.

And yes, Naruto is potentially the most powerful fighter on the whole planet. If he wasn't an idiot, he'd be a hell of a lot stronger. It'd be much cooler to see someone like Neji with a bijuu...but then there wouldn't be opposition...

I think that Naruto will become much stronger after his sage training. It should put him on par with Sasuke's stupid ass eyes.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Gaara/Deidera was okay.

But what I'd really recommend is the Sakura/Chiyo vs. Sasori fight. I got a lot of respect for Sakura after I watched that fight animated.

True, true. That was great. Beating the shit out of those massive iron blocks was bad ass.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, Naruto couldn't be pierced by that uber blade of Orochimaru's.

And yes, the more tails Naruto makes, the more powerful he becomes but the less control he has.

I don't think simple mind tricks would work on a 4 tailed Naruto. You can dispel genjutsus with chakra control. I highly doubt something as little as that would have an effect on 4 tailed Naruto...don't you think Oro would have tried it against Naruto instead of weakening himself in a futile fight? It would appear the Naruto is almost invulnerable when in his 4 tailed form. He seems to be controllable only by the Uchiha and Yamato.

And yes, Naruto is potentially the most powerful fighter on the whole planet. If he wasn't an idiot, he'd be a hell of a lot stronger. It'd be much cooler to see someone like Neji with a bijuu...but then there wouldn't be opposition...

I think that Naruto will become much stronger after his sage training. It should put him on par with Sasuke's stupid ass eyes.

I know Naruto gets stronger with more tails but does it ever really say Shukaku is weaker than Kyuubi without them having hosts? Or that one-tail is the weakest. Because I remember Chiyo saying that all the demons have unlimited power..but I could be remembering wrong.

Naruto isn't exactly great at chakra control, and I think he'd be even worse when he can't even control himself. Oro was also just having fun in that fight even when he did use the sword to try to kill him Oro didn't exactly use all his jutsu. Does Oro even know genjutsu? It doesn't fit him at all to use it, and like I said genjutsu is what I think would beat 4-tailed Naruto because of him being invulnerable. Everything has it's weakness and genjutsu is Naruto's big time.

Naruto has a lot of potential he just doesn't have the skill to realize it, and while I do agree Naruto will get stronger I still don't see him being anymore skilled. I think whatever keeps him from getting locked in a genjutsu from Sasuke is whatever Itachi did. I already think Naruto is a lot more powerful than Sasuke anyway, and if he can get passed the sharingan Sasuke is toast.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Gaara/Deidera was okay.

But what I'd really recommend is the Sakura/Chiyo vs. Sasori fight. I got a lot of respect for Sakura after I watched that fight animated.

Yea I keep hearing I should watch that fight.

I should probably just watch Shippuden..with skipping filler episodes.

Originally posted by Kento
I know Naruto gets stronger with more tails but does it ever really say Shukaku is weaker than Kyuubi without them having hosts? Or that one-tail is the weakest. Because I remember Chiyo saying that all the demons have unlimited power..but I could be remembering wrong.

Naruto isn't exactly great at chakra control, and I think he'd be even worse when he can't even control himself. Oro was also just having fun in that fight even when he did use the sword to try to kill him Oro didn't exactly use all his jutsu. Does Oro even know genjutsu? It doesn't fit him at all to use it, and like I said genjutsu is what I think would beat 4-tailed Naruto because of him being invulnerable. Everything has it's weakness and genjutsu is Naruto's big time.

Naruto has a lot of potential he just doesn't have the skill to realize it, and while I do agree Naruto will get stronger I still don't see him being anymore skilled. I think whatever keeps him from getting locked in a genjutsu from Sasuke is whatever Itachi did. I already think Naruto is a lot more powerful than Sasuke anyway, and if he can get passed the sharingan Sasuke is toast.

I could have sworn that Oro used tons of genjutsu in the forest during the Chuunin exams?

And no, Oro was literally exhausting himself with naruto. Had it continued, Oro would have died.

Yes, it said it somewhere that the nine tailed fox is the most powerful. The more tails the more powerful the demon. I can't remember where that was, though.

Orochimaru used one Genjutsu which is most likely the weakest one. And he only used it on Ninja that feared him. Genin and Kakashi cuz of his rep. So it most ly works on fear. And sincew orochimaru is a joke nothing to worry about anymore.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I could have sworn that Oro used tons of genjutsu in the forest during the Chuunin exams?

And no, Oro was literally exhausting himself with naruto. Had it continued, Oro would have died.

Yes, it said it somewhere that the nine tailed fox is the most powerful. The more tails the more powerful the demon. I can't remember where that was, though.

I don't remember him every using any.

It wasn't because of Naruto it was because playing around any longer would get him killed because his body wasn't working properly because the whole three years thing. His regen would have kept him alive had he been at full strength. He just had no way to kill Naruto either but he still says he was playing around and he didn't even use any jutsu except one and that was to save himself.

Hmm I don't ever remember seeing that said..Though people keep saying it so maybe I just missed something or forgot it.

@Csdabest - Was that genjutsu? I thought it was just killing intent not really genjutsu.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Gaara/Deidera was okay.

But what I'd really recommend is the Sakura/Chiyo vs. Sasori fight. I got a lot of respect for Sakura after I watched that fight animated.

in the words of sakura "HELL YEAH!".

"PSHAA"

"This is like totally time to use one of my special attacks!"

"Like what, Neji?"

"Dude. ULTIMATE NINJA ATTACK!" *pokes*

"Wha- Oh come on..."

"Dude. Like, what's wrong? Bring it on! *smacks* Oh haha think again little dude!" BYE-AH-KOO-GAN! ...again. "

"I'm okay.. really.. I just... I just.. ugh... "

" HAW HAW! Found your chakra points dude! CHAKRA HEART STOP! *pokes heart* "

"Ack!"

"Dude. Most. Heinous!

crylaugh

Originally posted by Kento
I don't remember him every using any.

It wasn't because of Naruto it was because playing around any longer would get him killed because his body wasn't working properly because the whole three years thing. His regen would have kept him alive had he been at full strength. He just had no way to kill Naruto either but he still says he was playing around and he didn't even use any jutsu except one and that was to save himself.

Hmm I don't ever remember seeing that said..Though people keep saying it so maybe I just missed something or forgot it.

@Csdabest - Was that genjutsu? I thought it was just killing intent not really genjutsu.

Im not even sure to tell you the truth. someone on Mangahelplers explained it to me as genjutsu cuz he made them see their death. I dont know. Killing intent would make more sense specially since Orochimaru gets genjutsu rape when he is faced with it.

Originally posted by Kento
It wasn't because of Naruto it was because playing around any longer would get him killed because his body wasn't working properly because the whole three years thing.
Orochimaru never said this you are just assuming it's the case, he was fine at that point nothing suggests other wise. However he did say he would die if he got hit by that huge blast.

Originally posted by Magee
Orochimaru never said this you are just assuming it's the case, he was fine at that point nothing suggests other wise. However he did say he would die if he got hit by that huge blast.
He does say that. But Oro also says his body isn't working properly so he can't stay and play any longer.

Did anyone watch Shippuuden 67?

HOLY HELL!

Sakura WTF pwned that b****! It was awesome! Dude, it was massive punch!

Sakura saved Konoha. 😆

is that the last of the fillers then??

The last one is either next weeks or the week after that.

Originally posted by Magee
Sakura saved Konoha. 😆

She raped the b****. 😄