Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I just wish the Third had farted in Naruto's face like he had done to Kiba. Would have been awesome.
Indeed.
Another fight I disliked was Naruto and Bee vs Itachi and Nagato. It started out really good but...yeah.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I do not understand your point.What are you trying to tell me with those scans?
You don't get to say "I'm nearly out of chakra" and then proceed to do a giant summon
Naruto did. 😛
Characters will monologue with far worse injuries than Sasuke though. Sasuke was obviously worn to a degree but given his Jinchuriki like nature at the time, combined with his CS, and he wouldn't be at 0. DP is correct when he mentioned the problem being the time Sasuke did his little stunt, not really the stunt itself.
Mind you, I think ninja are capable of multitasking so it never bothered me. :3
Originally posted by Nephthys
Jinchuriki-like nature?
He had the White Snake/Orochimaru sealed in him and it worked similarly to the Kyuubi.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Sasuke did just absorb a huge chakra tank at the time that could turn into a giant Hydra monster when Sasuke couldn't suppress him.I'm still wondering how Sasuke was able to come out of all of that and still supress Orochimaru.
I didn't like Kankuro vs Sasori at all 🙁
**** that fight.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I'm still wondering how Sasuke was able to come out of all of that and still supress Orochimaru.
Maybe because while his tank was empty, the fight was over and he wasn't in any more danger so his mind was strong?
In the Itachi fight he did it when his tank was empty *and* he faced great danger on top of that.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Despite his 'injuries' Sasuke was walking around fine and in fact monologuing until he uses Chidori again and then promptly collapses, at which point Deidara points out that he must be at his limit as well.
Not really. Sasuke himself states that he was in pain due to the Chidori he used on himself. Unless that is what you call fine.
Deidara only assumed that he had used up the last of his chakra. As he does not have any chakra sensing capabilities or doujutsu that we know of, it's impossible to take his words at face-value.
We've already seen what happens when Sasuke completely runs out of chakra and he then tries to use more. It didn't happen against Deidara.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Indeed.Another fight I disliked was Naruto and Bee vs Itachi and Nagato. It started out really good but...yeah.
Thanks to the whole Crow crap, yeah I guess so.
Though Itachi saving their asses from a Nagato that was as powerful as he should have portrayed been from the start, was awesome.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Thanks to the whole Crow crap, yeah I guess so.
Though Itachi saving their asses from a Nagato that was as powerful as he should have portrayed been from the start, was awesome.
I liked the Crow because it mixed things up a bit. I didn't like how Kabuto completely and utterly failed to adapt to how things mixed up. Kabuto didn't really strike me as a failure until that fight.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Sasuke did just absorb a huge chakra tank at the time that could turn into a giant Hydra monster when Sasuke couldn't suppress him.I'm still wondering how Sasuke was able to come out of all of that and still supress Orochimaru.
I didn't like Kankuro vs Sasori at all 🙁
He never needed to tap into the chakra that was used to contain Orochimaru, plus he had a little to spare. Whereas against Itachi, he tried to draw chakra out when he didn't even have any for his Sharingan.
That fight was ghey. Sasori was nerfed and Kankuro stated his tech surpasses Sasori's.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I liked the Crow because it mixed things up a bit. I didn't like how Kabuto completely and utterly failed to adapt to how things mixed up. Kabuto didn't really strike me as a failure until that fight.
Fair enough. While the crow did put Itachi on a completely different level when compared to all the other ET'd ninja awesome, it was a friggin Deus Ex Machina, albeit subverted.
And yeah, I agree.
I also wish we could have seen a rejuvenated Nagato in control of his own powers. Would have been even more uber.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That fight was ghey. Sasori was nerfed and Kankuro stated his tech surpasses Sasori's.Fair enough. While the crow did put Itachi on a completely different level when compared to all the other ET'd ninja awesome, it was a friggin Deus Ex Machina, albeit subverted.
And yeah, I agree.
I also wish we could have seen a rejuvenated Nagato in control of his own powers. Would have been even more uber.
God I hated that fight. Not the best way to start a war. But it picked up. And Sai was kewl during the fight, in my humble opinion.
Indeed. It would be Fridge Brilliance if we're using tropes. Though somewhat accidental. Indeed. The fight should have lasted longer.
Originally posted by Q99
I'm not a big fan of tease fights- like Deidara vs Onoki, where they did more posing than fighting and then Deidara got called away.
Lol those suck as well. Kurotsuchi saved it though.
they threw it in the anime, and it makes sense cause they were protecting their comrades from a distance and getting them with a maelstrom attack isn't conducive to that.
in the manga it just shows the formation of the techs in their hands and then the explosion. naruto and tenzou are then standing before the kanoha ninja.
The anime went with the stylistic approach. So long as it's not in the manga, it's fine.
Originally posted by Q99
Yea.Hm, I'd say the Kakuzu fight was one of my less favorites. In large part due to it being right next to the superb Hidan/Shikamaru fight, plus you had two great characters largely standing around and being protected by Kakashi.
Lol superb? 😛
Oh...two more....Deidara vs Kakashi and Naruto. And Deidara vs Team Guy. Those were facepalm worthy.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Naruto did. 😛
And to keep this conversation from going any further...
Naruto had to get drained, first, to teach him to use the 9-tails chakra for the summon. Naruto's was planned for over the course of multiple chapters and it was exactly what Jiraiya was going for. Naruto has the most chakra rich tailed beast sealed inside of him. Naruto's summon is directly accounted for.
So I do not get why you would bring it up: it is non sequitur to the Sasuke "out of chakra" scenario.
I would see your point IFF Sasuke also had a tailed beast inside of him.
Except when Naruto summoned Gamabunta before, we see him clearly taking the chakra from the Kyuubi. In this scenario, we don't. We simply see Naruto summon Gamabunta. Could he have subconsciously drawn on Kurama's chakra? Possibly. But, unlike the other times, it isn't really shown.
And Sasuke was a Jinchuriki of sorts at the time, having Orochimaru/the White Snake sealed inside him. Naruto is able to heal very quickly, particularly when drawing out Kurama's chakra. Sasuke similarly healed after the battle with Deidara. 😮
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Except when Naruto summoned Gamabunta before, we see him clearly taking the chakra from the Kyuubi.
He wasn't taking the chakra from the Kyubi.
He was given it by the Kyubi.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-100-17/naruto/chapter-95.html
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
In this scenario, we don't. We simply see Naruto summon Gamabunta. Could he have subconsciously drawn on Kurama's chakra? Possibly. But, unlike the other times, it isn't really shown.
One of the scans I showed you answered the question already.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-99-5/naruto/chapter-94.html
Additionally, Naruto consciously pulls that chakra out against Neji without the Kyubi giving it to him.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-108-19/naruto/chapter-103.html
This was Jiraiya's goal from the beginning, remember? Naruto consciously controlling the kyubi's chakra instead of only releasing it when he is about to die or someone he cares about is about to die.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And Sasuke was a Jinchuriki of sorts at the time, having Orochimaru/the White Snake sealed inside him.
There's a minor problem with your argument: what happens when Sasuke uses all his chakra and then relies on the cursed seal is completely different than what happened when he saved himself with Manda.
In other words, your idea is completely off base. We also didn't get to see the cursed seal markings before or directly after the attack which is always present and shown when he uses it but is deactivating or activating it..
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Naruto is able to heal very quickly, particularly when drawing out Kurama's chakra. Sasuke similarly healed after the battle with Deidara. 😮
Sasuke was worse after being summoned so I am not sure what you're talking about.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-368-12/naruto/chapter-363.html
http://www.mangareader.net/93-368-14/naruto/chapter-363.html
He even remarks that he took some of the hit before he got inside (oh gawd) Manda.