The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
Where have you been? Again, I have stated from your VERY first complaint that I reject information I don't like. I have my own set of rules on what BS I will throw out. 😐

I have been paying attention. I find it pretty funny honestly.

If a character does something that is not something he or she should be able to do, I reject it. The exception is if they are enhanced via plot (like power armor, being bestowed powers by a higher being, and so forth). But just their normal self doing things well past hundreds of tons when they are a 90 ton class? B.S. I will throw it out immediately.

Oh you.

Sure, THIS time that's what I said, but it is not something I had stated before until now.

Aka, you implied it. 😄

No, that's not what I said. Fnally, the initial effort could actually be greater due to the much greater inertia of a fully alive tree (it would have more mass).

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, the height difference would be about 5 feet and, yes, the power difference would be astounding. Guess you're not familiar with levers?

This is in response to ScreamPaste saying the five feet of height difference would not make a difference of nearly a thousand tons. 😄

Oh sure, the initial effort would be greater, but did you quantify that? I only saw you calc it according to the total force required to vertically uproot a stump. 😄

Pay attention:

"initial effort"

You get an "f" for the day.

Nope I won.

You're referring to level 7s, I am referring to the high end of level 6.

Level 6 is 75-100 tons. Level 7 is 100+ tons.

Are you using a different scale?

I don't subscribe to Marvel's shitty 1-7 scale frankly. If I did, I would have to accept that The Sentry is weaker than Colossus, Sentry having a 6, Colossus a 7.

http://marvel.com/universe/Sentry_(Robert_Reynolds)

http://marvel.com/universe/Colossus_(Piotr_Rasputin)

The Thing also has a 6, despite being astronomically weaker than The Sentry, who stalemated World War Hulk.

They also gave Sentry a 5 in intelligence. I'm not sure why.

But yeah no, the Sentry has consistently been shown to lift far in excess of a hundred tons, I have never seen him being unable to do so frankly.

Of course I am. estahuh

Stfu.

LIAAAAAR!

I made the joke first! I maintain that my version was and will always be symbolic. You think it is really going to be buttsecks.

Yeh no, I made a specific joke based on the most recent chapter boyo. 😄

I liked the chapter for Hinata. That was it. Yey.

So yeah, this chapter pretty much confirms that Tobi is just doing things for the lulz.

Pretty badass of him to nonchalantly wave away Naruto's recent power-up. Still, he's starting to worry.

Also, Naruto is secretly Orochimaru!

Sasuke's eye transplant-boost must be pretty enormous if he's going to go toe to toe with Naruto who may or may not have a connection to the rest of the bijuu.

But then again he probably has the Rinnegan, and can absorb chakra and all kinds of crazy stuff.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pretty badass of him to nonchalantly wave away Naruto's recent power-up. Still, he's starting to worry.

Also, Naruto is secretly Orochimaru!

I'm thinking he'll capture Bee but when reinforcments arrive, he'll retreat. Wonder where Sasuke is headed? Could he run into Juugo and Suigetsu? Division 5 of the SA remains unaccounted for so he might run into them?

I noticed that. Was funny.

Originally posted by Astner
Sasuke's eye transplant-boost must be pretty enormous if he's going to go toe to toe with Naruto who may or may not have a connection to the rest of the bijuu.

But then again he probably has the Rinnegan, and can absorb chakra and all kinds of crazy stuff.

Without the Rinnegan or Juubi powers, he can't beat current Naruto.
EMS didn't seem to offer Madara anything more than a regular MS would, other than a modified Susano'o.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I'm thinking he'll capture Bee but when reinforcments arrive, he'll retreat. Wonder where Sasuke is headed? Could he run into Juugo and Suigetsu? Division 5 of the SA remains unaccounted for so he might run into them?

I noticed that. Was funny.

He could probably capture both Bee & Naruto at this point. Bee does seem likely though. Can't imagine Tobi walking out of this fight without a victory of some kind...unless he isn't the final villain. >__>
Dunno. That carnage bit was lulzy. Guessing Kishi's gonna have Sasuke take out most of the SA, or Division 5 like you pointed out.

Yep. Plus he made Tobi sweat just with a look. 313

To be fair, Naruto is flat out exhausted right now. If Sasuke finds him it will be a tough fight.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Without the Rinnegan or Juubi powers, he can't beat current Naruto.
EMS didn't seem to offer Madara anything more than a regular MS would, other than a modified Susano'o.

He could probably capture both Bee & Naruto at this point. Bee does seem likely though. Can't imagine Tobi walking out of this fight without a victory of some kind...unless he isn't the final villain. >__>
Dunno. That carnage bit was lulzy. Guessing Kishi's gonna have Sasuke take out most of the SA, or Division 5 like you pointed out.

Yep. Plus he made Tobi sweat just with a look. 313

Yeah...Naruto is a bit overpowered at the moment...

Well I mean before the reinforcements arrived. Guy probably won't be using 8 Gates though. And I would be saddened if he wasn't. He really is the best Naruto villain. >_>
It was funny. And if took out most of the SA it would be lulzy.

Bro, that was rain. awesome

I am really curious what the Eternal technique is. We've yet to see it, even though we've seen Eternal users.

Simply not having to worry about losing powers, and thus being able to run Susano'o far more, is already a pretty major boost.

Originally posted by Nephthys
To be fair, Naruto is flat out exhausted right now. If Sasuke finds him it will be a tough fight.

That'd be pretty gay if they fought right now.
His exhaustion is why I think Naruto can be captured now.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Yeah...Naruto is a bit overpowered at the moment...

Well I mean before the reinforcements arrived. Guy probably won't be using 8 Gates though. And I would be saddened if he wasn't. He really is the best Naruto villain. >_>
It was funny. And if took out most of the SA it would be lulzy.

Bro, that was rain. awesome

'A bit' is putting it lightly. No doubt his 5 minute time limit is going to disappear soon.

Gai should use the 8 Gates. Then Tsunade comes in and saves his ass.
Agreed. He's been pulling the strings for a long time.
Indeed. Naruto saves most of them, only for Sasuke to kill them anyway.

The fact that Tobi first thought it was sweat means he thought he was scared by that look. 😛

Originally posted by Q99
I am really curious what the Eternal technique is. We've yet to see it, even though we've seen Eternal users.

Simply not having to worry about losing powers, and thus being able to run Susano'o far more, is already a pretty major boost.

Doubt the boost is as great as one the Rinnegan would provide. Madara proved that much.

True, but there's still the limiting factor of chakra, and Susano'o eats up a lot of it.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
'A bit' is putting it lightly. No doubt his 5 minute time limit is going to disappear soon.

Gai should use the 8 Gates. Then Tsunade comes in and saves his ass.
Agreed. He's been pulling the strings for a long time.
Indeed. Naruto saves most of them, only for Sasuke to kill them anyway.

The fact that Tobi first thought it was sweat means he thought he was scared by that look. 😛

Nah. 😖hifty:

No. I want 8 Gates to equal death. It must. No bullshit healing. 😠
Indeed. He has that whole puppet master thing going on.

But it wasn't. Meanings he wasn't. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Doubt the boost is as great as one the Rinnegan would provide. Madara proved that much.

True, but the rinnegan gives a bunch of techniques. The Eternal move is just one, and it's probably a cool one.

True, but there's still the limiting factor of chakra, and Susano'o eats up a lot of it.

Quite, but Sasuke was able to keep it on through the Danzo fight, so he at least can manage in many battle. And Madara has even more.

Someone speculated that EMS would let Sasuke slow down time.

Would be cool but would justify Sasuke hate even more.

All I know is rain=Kirin. awesome

nah, just more susano'o armour

Originally posted by NemeBro
Aka, you implied it. 😄

I did not. You chose to believe that despite my protests.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This is in response to ScreamPaste saying the five feet of height difference would not make a difference of nearly a thousand tons. 😄

So, yeah, you didn't understand the quote, at all.

Lemme explain it to you:

The place the elephant was getting leverage on a much thinner tree: between 8-12 feet.

Where Edward was: between 3.5 and 4 feet.

"Height difference" = about 5 feet.

When we add more than a meter of difference, the torque difference between those two amounts to 150-200 kNm. AKA, hundreds of thousands Nm. That's a massive difference. And now you know why lever arms make "work" so much easier.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh sure, the initial effort would be greater, but did you quantify that?

Nemebro, meet moment of inertia.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I only saw you calc it according to the total force required to vertically uproot a stump. 😄

And not much else is required since it is already a known 60 kNm (this is not an average but a maximum torque requirement). 😄

We can then move on to the 5 times that amount (as stated in the white paper) which is 300kNm. Then we can conclude; without having to add in the mass of the tree which will cause Edward to have to use more force on the "lever arm" than if the lever arm was massless; that we are already into the hundreds of kNm. Then we can throw in the fact that the ground is frozen and the tree is still alive (not dried out and treated for removal) adding in several unknowns that will make pushing it over even harder.

Any additional work, at this point, is superfluous to what we need. I only needed to prove that Edward is a 100+ ton (in this case, it is 100+ tonne class...which is better, lol) class which everyone sh*t their pants over. They just could not stand the fact that Edward was that strong. It's supposed to be girly. No way that a sparkly girlie vamp could be pushing out that much strength.

Lastly, and this is the best part, Edward exerted far more force than necessary to uproot that tree. Those white paper calcs were done on a very slow, controlled, and steady uprooting process. Edward's was done in a few seconds which would be extremely stupid of real world people to do (injury from flying dirt clumps, wood shrapnel from cracking wood, and abrupt movements of the tree). It would take much more force to accomplish what Edward did in the time he did than just 300 kNm especially if you add in the other factors like the frozen ground and the fact that the tree is fully alive and an evergreen.

Just cope with the reality that you got way in over your head and face it that Edward, one of the physically weaker vampires, can produce hundreds of tonnes of force at a minimum for that particular feet.

If there was any studies done on uprooting live evergreen trees in the tundra, we'd have an even better idea of how much force he was producing. I estimated (which I am rarely off...proven multiple times, now) that it would be over 1000 kNm.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Nope I won.

Sure if you didn't pay attention. 😉

Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't subscribe to Marvel's shitty 1-7 scale frankly.

That's cool. And since I'm not a hypocrite, I'll say that you are entitled to your opinion. 🙂

Originally posted by NemeBro
Stfu.

Don't be mad because I'm more awesome than Nutella or Waffles.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeh no, I made a specific joke based on the most recent chapter boyo. 😄

Nah.

🙂

That doesn't work: it was still about buttsecks with Naruto and Sasuke.

The first person to make jokes about Naruto and Sasuke ****ing was Kishi himself.

Neither of you get credit for it. 313

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
The first person to make jokes about Naruto and Sasuke ****ing was Kishi himself.

Neither of you get credit for it. 313

That's true.

Kishi wins.

notworthy

I bore of this game.

I will take a page from the Phenomenol style of debating and declare myself the winner without answering you.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Nah. 😖hifty:

No. I want 8 Gates to equal death. It must. No bullshit healing. 😠
Indeed. He has that whole puppet master thing going on.

But it wasn't. Meanings he wasn't. 😛

Dude's got PIS on his side. Of course it'll disappear without any explanation. vin

To be honest, I'm surprised he recovered so quickly after having his muscles torn to shreds.
Kabuto is a literal puppet master though. vin

For now at least. Wait till Sasuke shows up with Kirin though. After all, he's the one causing the Storm. awesome

Originally posted by Q99
True, but the rinnegan gives a bunch of techniques. The Eternal move is just one, and it's probably a cool one.

Quite, but Sasuke was able to keep it on through the Danzo fight, so he at least can manage in many battle. And Madara has even more.

Possibly. On the other hand it could be a translation error, and/or the EMS itself is the new technique. I remember reading 'eye technique'. srug

Yep, so basically after it becomes 'Eternal', the limiting factor for the MS is chakra, much like it is with any other KG or jutsu. I remember some people speculating that due to the 'Eternal' bit, it could be used for Izanagi and not close up, but that would be incredibly broken.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
The first person to make jokes about Naruto and Sasuke ****ing was Kishi himself.

Neither of you get credit for it. 313

This.
He brought it up in the last chapter, and did so in a way that is far better than what DDM or NemeBro ever could do. uhuh

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Yep, so basically after it becomes 'Eternal', the limiting factor for the MS is chakra, much like it is with any other KG or jutsu. I remember some people speculating that due to the 'Eternal' bit, it could be used for Izanagi and not close up, but that would be incredibly broken.

Yea, I doubt it doesn't close for Izanagi again either.

Also, it does come to mind how broken Dust is... "Power similar to EMS, but you don't have to kill your best friend or pluck out a sibling's eyes!". Not as versatile, but still.