UK Tuition Fees!

I'm still happy I live in good old belgium. The Gouvernement does its best to keep the tuition fees as low as possible by giving the unis money from taxes, sure ppl are paying for unis even if they aren't going. Yet again that is socialism, now we should only work on a tax system in whcih the richer pay more and the poor pay less (but that'll never happen with those filthy liberals in the gouvernement, prolly won't happen evever cause ppl are always like: "oooh no they are going to raise taxes then they must be the anti-christ noooo" FFS)

Originally posted by Fire
I'm still happy I live in good old belgium. The Gouvernement does its best to keep the tuition fees as low as possible by giving the unis money from taxes, sure ppl are paying for unis even if they aren't going. Yet again that is socialism, now we should only work on a tax system in whcih the richer pay more and the poor pay less (but that'll never happen with those filthy liberals in the gouvernement, prolly won't happen evever cause ppl are always like: "oooh no they are going to raise taxes then they must be the anti-christ noooo" FFS)

Thats awsome!! 👆

Thats just great, i actually wish it was like that here! Belgioum seems to have it together more than some countries!

we have a very large social service system, it makes our taxes sky rocket, ppl sometimes complain about it but in general we have a good life to live. Better than most other countries, only problem we are having atm is that we need more young workers soon, cause we are gonna have far too much old ppl in a decade or two

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I just think it is far too much... especially as I am going to a London University, which automatically doubles the amount I have to pay!

Originally posted by Phoenix
I'm hoping to go to St. mary's cerm, to study english and creative writing, then do a teacher training year ((which I should get a grant for!))

st. mary's in twickenham???

twinky??

hehe

twickenham!

yups - how did you know, most people ask me where it is?!?

Man...the Queen needs to bring the $$ down on taxes and alot over there!!!!! That is all pretty shitey!!

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Uuum...what i said whas that there never was a golden age wof lower class, but that rise in loans will not make it any better than it was.

Besides, paying from £1,225 then jumping to £3,000 is a big differance.

Being in debt of £30, 000 is not a small amount of money...students will have to be giving that money back forever! And what about when someone 3 years down the line decides to take mortage for a house...thats a lot of money to be stuck with!

But there is no interest on that debt and it is only ever re-paid when you are able to. In effect, you are not going into debt, simply being advanced the money. Rich or poor makes no difference- you get advanced the money and pay it back in LATER life, so how much money you have when you go to Uni is of no consequence. If you can never pay it back then you will never be asked to, but that is unlikely.

Let us not forget that it is the Universities themselves who begged for this to be allowd- because current funding of universities cannot be maintained.

The Conservatives have said they will remove fees on one condition- they will drastically reduce the amount of people at university.

So you have two choices- either narrow university access, or get people going there to pay. There is no other option.

sounds like a good plan Ush

I plan on going to college and Uni over here in Canada 😄
The thing is our school offers scholarships that pay for the first year of university 😄 so you can work and save money and so on.
But I gotta say I'm not really worried because I have a trust account for University.
I'm just not looking forward to all those years of school 😖

lol

another question dont you guys have like scholarships in England 🤨

Ush, I think the conservative plan could be quite a good one with a little tweaking, here is what I would suggest:-

Remove the tuition fees and narrow the places that are available for free, those that have the highest grades qualify for the free places, that way we will be getting the cleverer people higher education regardless of their financial situation, this would stop some of the clever people who cannot afford to go to Uni slipping though and having to forego a higher education. It would also mean that anyone wanting to go to Uni for free would have to try harder at school. Make all the other places available at a higher cost, then the little rich kids who think they are clever and just don't want to go to work yet and get mummy and daddy to pay for their education and this extra funding would help the educations system be bettered.

Originally posted by Phoenix
yups - how did you know, most people ask me where it is?!?

one - one of my mum's friends went there
2. i live really near there!

Originally posted by Corran
Ush, I think the conservative plan could be quite a good one with a little tweaking, here is what I would suggest:-

Remove the tuition fees and narrow the places that are available for free, those that have the highest grades qualify for the free places, that way we will be getting the cleverer people higher education regardless of their financial situation, this would stop some of the clever people who cannot afford to go to Uni slipping though and having to forego a higher education. It would also mean that anyone wanting to go to Uni for free would have to try harder at school. Make all the other places available at a higher cost, then the little rich kids who think they are clever and just don't want to go to work yet and get mummy and daddy to pay for their education and this extra funding would help the educations system be bettered.

sounds like a good plan Corran

but do you think that people with higher grades are always cleverer?
cause I know quite a few really clever ppl who don't have high grades because they don't really care, and the opposite. also having high grades and or being clever does not mean that you are automaticaly going to be the best in your profession once you graduate

Heh, yeah, being smart doesn't always mean having high grades.

College/University tuition is high, and I know it's going to be expensive, but here in the US it's almost ridiculous. I'm going to college next year, and depending on which school I go to (either University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign or the School of the Art Institute of Chicago...yeah, I'm staying pretty local) it's going to cost a lot. UIUC will be about $15,000 a year and SAIC is about $26,000 a year. So for me to go to college for 4 years it'll cost between $60,000 to $100,000, and that's not even counting books, art supplies (because I'm planning on majoring in art), and all the stuff I'll need for my dorm...it's going to be really expensive. But thankfully I scored really high on the ACT and SAT (evil college entrance exams...I got a 32 of 36 on the ACT and a 1340 of 1600 on the SAT) and I was named an Illinois State Scholar, so I should be able to get some scholarships from that, plus I'm going to apply for all sorts of grants and stuff. College here is so expensive...my aunts are doctors and went to med school, and they're still paying off student loans even though they graduated med school 13 years ago. The thing with student loans here, is unless you're lucky enough to get a government loan, most of them start collecting interest as soon as you take it out and you have to start paying it back right away. But if you get a government loan it doesn't start collecting interest until 9 months after you graduate and you don't have to start paying it back until then (I believe that's right...at least that's what I was told, anyway). But I'm damn determined to go to college, plus there's the fact that I'm taking AP classes this year so that if I pass all of them with good scores, I'll be able to get enough college credit to graduate college an entire semester early 🙂

And on the college note...I'm really anxious about graduating high school and going on to college 😄

nice TM still like our belgian system better tho