Gothmog

well either way it was a bitchin' effort!!! several balrogs (and many orcs) is still an amazing effort and way to go!!!

especially the way he died... got up, red hot, and told his sons to fullfill thier oath and then blew away as ash in the wind.

Gotty is my pet. I brought him from Udhun. The other from ROTK is ugly and my Gotty is beautiful 😛

John Gotty?

Originally posted by Corlindel
Gotty is my pet. I brought him from Udhun. The other from ROTK is ugly and my Gotty is beautiful 😛

*Ahem* From my fave Tolkien Reference Webpage The Encyclopedia or Arda:

The strange, disfigured creature - some kind of Orc, apparently - who leads the armies of Mordor against Minas Tirith has seen his part in the story expanded immensely. This is Gothmog, the Lieutenant of Morgul, who is mentioned precisely once in the book, and about whom we know practically nothing. Indeed, it's not even clear from the book what kind of creature he is, and there's some debate about this. Some have suggested that he was another one of the Nazgûl, while others prefer to see him as an evil Man. The idea that he was an Orc, as the movie seems to show, is a rather less common suggestion, but there's nothing in the books that would make it impossible.

bah,,,That is not my Gotty. My Gothmog killed Feanor and Fingon. And I gave hi a strong breakfast or Gotty would est them too 😛

Your Gotty also killed poor Ecthelion, didnt he? Nassssty Gothy

Originally posted by Corlindel
bah,,,That is not my Gotty. My Gothmog killed Feanor and Fingon. And I gave hi a strong breakfast or Gotty would est them too 😛

Ah, you must be referring to the original Gothmog, Lord of the Balrog whom Gothmog named himself after when the Witch King fell.

Originally posted by Exa
Your Gotty also killed poor Ecthelion, didnt he? Nassssty Gothy

Echtelion is a Pimp!!! 😠 I dont wanna hear his name 😠

😄

Gothmog and I are now locked in eternal battle under the house of Mandos... 😆 😆

Strange that only two of the Balrogs really had names... Gothmog and Lungorthin the White, both called "Lord of the Balrogs" 😄

ecthelion is not a pimp
he killed five (!) balrogs...

Originally posted by Exa
Strange that only two of the Balrogs really had names... Gothmog and Lungorthin the White, both called "Lord of the Balrogs" 😄

ecthelion is not a pimp
he killed five (!) balrogs...

And I thought I knew quite a bit...I found no reference to Lungorthin the White. I humbly bow to your vast knowledge. Ecthelion also killed Gothmog before he himself was slain. But you already knew that... 😄

You do know more than quite a bit

😄 I knew it because I try to find as much as possible about Gondolin 😍 my city...

Lungorthin is named once in the Lays of Beleriand torturing somebody... I think it was Húrin 😄

i spoke to a friend of mine who is wiser than even I in these matters,
he has read the books more than I and for longer...

I brought this up and he said that Gothmog as an orc was a laughable Idea and agreed with me, howver to my utter horror he didn't agree with me that gothy was Kamhul the Nazgul. He said Man, and not neccesaryily a black numenorian like MOS! but I still push for Ringwraith status. But what ever anyone belives -THERE IS NO WAY GOTHMOG IS AN ORC!!!

hm, i rather got the impression that he WAS an orc, or rather something like an orc, though I dunno why... perhaps a man with orcblood or something, but when I think about it he rather sounds like one of the Nazgûl, though I kinda doubt that because of his name. Dunno why but doesnt sound like a Nazgûl.... perhaps because it's sindarin... I cant imagine anyone with a Sindarin name being a nazgûl.

for the movie gothmog is an orc,,,,, he was in the credits, and gamesworkshop has a model of him "Gothmog, lieutenant of morgul" he was and orc leader in the movie but then was givin a name

but the credits mention one 'orc lieutenant'
????????????????????????????????????????

either way the films may have interpreted him as an orc...
but 'gothmog' and 'witchking' are played by the same guy!!!
so i don't know what to think...
either way gothy is not an orc in the books...
(and this in no way lessens my love for the films)

alright, now what to figure out.... who the orc lietenant is? my guess is the one with a skull on his head that yells catapults! and then gets owned by aragorn and the dead

Hm... Orc lieutenant... no idea who he could be... maybe one of those from Minas Morgul who came to Ithilien? This guy standing beside Gothmog when Madril is killed?