USH'S MATRIX GAME FOURTH ASSIGNMENT (PHILOSOPHY PATH)- 'The Journey'

"Validity is not important. Validity is not the problem."

Castor looked up and closed his eyes as he removed his glasses and placed them in his pocket.

"The problem is choice."

"We weren't given a choice. Thats what we want, thats all we want. A choice. The decisions made inside or outside the matrix are irrelivant, the important factor is whether or not we were allowed to choose where we wanted to make those choices.

"The need to make a decision will be thrust upon you no matter where you go. The choice to go to that place is more important...After all your decisons are limited by your environment. If my environment does not yeild the decision i really want to make, then my decision is not based upon my choices, it is based upon the choices others made.

Castor, do be careful about trying to answer your own question rather than the one being asked. Also, you cannot say that validity is not the problem and then make a series of statements that basically starts wandering whether a choice you make is valid or not.

In the end, it is his question being asked. Your answer has to be one of yes, no, or don't know, and preferably why. Your opinion on whether validity is a problem is not in the slightest bit relevant to that question. You are not here to dispute his questions, nor is it wise to as you don't know where he is going with them. But as I say, you then seem to discuss validity anyway. Your argument is if the decision is not based upon your choice then it is not really your decsion. That is a good definition of it being invalid.

So, you appear to be saying that it doesn't matter if the decision is made inside or outside the Matrix, yes (having said that 'decisions made inside or outside the Matrix are irrelevant'😉 ? The only thing that matters, by your argument, is if you had choice over what led you to that decision. In which case your answere to Melitus is- no, there is no way it is less relevant, because being in the Matrix or not does not necessarily dictate whether you had a choice or not.

Do be careful of getting ahead of yourself; this first question is very simple.

(i got a little philosophical ush, my bad. Heh. I thought it sounded good though..heh.)

"In turn I suppose my answer is no."

Well, this is the right path for that! But there will probably be better times to go off on a tangent like that.

I didn't want to sound like I was shooting down intellectualism but for gaming purposes I need to judge your answer relevant to the question I asked, is all. Which now I can do!

"Very interesting," says Melitus. "We may, however, go back to some of the points you made there soon."

I believe we are just waiting for Fire now.

(yes, well...i'll just add this)

"the decision cannot be less relevant simply because the mind alone makes a decision. adn the mind is fully operational within the matrix as well. The matrix only limits the body...the real body"

"Fairly stated," says Melitus.

"I think a decision in the matrix is as valid as one that is made outside of the matrix, because from what I have seen in the matrix, we still make our choices based on the facts given to us. We do the same in the real world, only the nature of the facts is different"

"Vey well," says Meltius. "All of you seem agreed that there is nothing about being in an artificial world per se that makes your decisions less relevant or valid.

"Please; proceed through another door."

Heph walks through the next door, poking his head in before continuing.

You appear to be in a large covered observatory that looks out onto the night sky. On a second glance, you note that it is in fact simply an image of the night sky, but a very realistic one.

"Hmm...this is interesting...everytime we enter a new room we get a new question i suppose?"

Rade enters anotehr room, also (i asssume we're all in different rooms)

No, all in the same.

"Now," says Melitus, "I have what seems to be a very simple question for you. However, it may turn out to be moire complicated than you think.

I wish to know, in your opinion, what is the difference between the Matrix and the 'Real' World?"

"This is indeed hard one to answer, I think when it comes down to it it is merely a question of faith, a certain feeling, I'll think about maybe I can find a bit more of rational explaining"

"You cannot even name some simple differences?" asks Melitus. "I already mentioned some whilst talking to Castor earlier."

"To be a 100% certain isn't very easy"

"But there are some things that are VERY certain with the Matrix," says Melitus.

"the matrix is a simulation. The world is real...."

(this isn't my fulla nswer, ofcourse...i'll think about the rest)

Okidokey...

"Can you tell me the meaning of that difference?" asks Melitus.