USH'S MATRIX GAME FOURTH ASSIGNMENT (PHILOSOPHY PATH)- 'The Journey'

"The mind is whats being stimulated in the matrix, not the body. In the real world, both are stimulated. Its very different. Also, as i said before the things that lead us to the point where we have to make decisions are either in our control or out of our control. In the matrix it is nto entirely in our control. Also, the system allows certain things in its exsistence, for example renegade programs.....oracles...things like that."

"In the real world you cannot siply alter a persons code, as you did with us, but in the matrix, thins are different. The rules arent the same as they are in the real world, because the rules are made by different people."

"All valid points," says Melitus. "Anything else?"

"In the matrix basic rules like gravity can be bent or broken in the real world they can not"

"The matrix is completely dependent on the survival of the real world. If the world was destroyed, the matrix would also be destroyed. However this isn't true in the reverse. If the matrix was destroyed right now we would die but the real world would still exist. This is one of the basic differences in my opinion. The matrix is dependent for survival."

"Indeed," says Melitus. "You may also want to remember what I said earlier about falsified history. All evidence in the Matrix that points to it being eras old- like fossils- has to be faked, even considering the simulated environment where technically everything is faked.

"Your family history in the Matrix is also entirely fabricated."

"The rules in the real world cant be bent....and ive never seen an agent in the real world, or someone get shot in the head and it not effect them."

"Rules in the Matrix are, of course, a major issue; whe shall examine that from another angle soon."

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Okidokey...

"Can you tell me the meaning of that difference?" asks Melitus.

"Would your basic thrust there be that the Matrix was deliberately created with intent and purpose, unlike the 'real' world which exists without deliberate intent and has no specific purpose?"

"yes. Simply because it's (the matrix's) simple existance is designed with a purpose makes it all the way different from the real world. wich, as i said....it just happens"

"I take it, therefore, that you do not believe in any form of being who created the Universe?"

"I personaly do believe in some form of greater being that created the universe"

Well, he was talking to Rade in particular as Rade's argument depended on him not believing in any such thing.

"that has no relevance. Even if any 'being' created the world, i cannot see that this creation has a definite purpose. As opposed to the matrix.
And i know that the people inside feel the same way about the matrix, as i do about the world, looking at what i've just said. But i am stating this from MY point of view."

(sort of saying that maybe i'd feel different about the real world, if i knew it was simply matrix into a different matrix, and so on...)

[EDIT] - Sos ush, Dexx can answer it.

"If a being created the Universe," says Melitus, "then it was indeed done with purpose. That it is a purpose you cannot discern is no different to a prisoner in the Matrix not knowing the purpose of his world.

However, this is somewhat digressing. I was merely interested in Rade's rationale of the Real World being without specific purpose; purpose is important, after all.

In all, are we agreed that there are very significant differences between the Matrix and the 'real' world? Most direct of all, everything in the Matrix consists of computer code rather than atoms amd molecules.

I would also add that apperance in the Matrix is inherent deceptive. Everything you see is in fact something else- a programme- designed to make you perceive it as something you recognise, like a door. Whilst you can say it can never be totally proven that the real world is different, as far as Science can tell us, what you perceive in the 'real' world is what is actually there.

So, many differences, yes?"

Oh, your opinion was still welcome, Azrael!

Hmmm... I forgot what I said 🙁 Is there anyway you can get it back?

"yes they are different"

"yes, many differences"