Just a thought...

This may be a totally stupid questions but:
1.How come Sauron doesn't dissapear when he wears the Ring?
2.Couldnt't they just take the ring to the undieing lands?
3. What are the Undieing lands?

(soz f i cant spell it )

undying lands is where the elves deciding to go to escape the warof the ring as they knew they were all in danger, no one dies there - you can say it is an immortal land lol or even an "undying lands".

Ring bearers may also go there, this is why Bilbo, Frodo & Gandalf get to go

Because they're only open from 9-5 and everybody is busy then🙂

(Sorry😄)

The Undying Lands are the the lands where the gods (or rather god-likes) live and where the elves go when they grow weary of the Mortal Lands.
Evil CAN come there, too (in fact, Sauron lived there some ages ago)... Melkor also managed to steal the Silmarilli. It also wouldnt be safe there, and I dont think the Ainur would like to have such dangerous things in their homes. And - who should guard it? Everybody could (rather would) become a victim of its power sooner or later.
And even if he didnt get the ring Sauron would still cover the lands with darkness. He has his armies ready, with or without the ring. That wouldnt be a real solution.

I think Sauron doesnt become invisible because he is a Maia and because he made the ring with his own power and his own hands - when you become invisible it's because you enter the wraith world, the void, like a parallel dimension, and Sauron, being not bound to his body who just serves him for some time, wouldnt be "changed" by this.

lol ok thanks guys, its the simplest things that make LOTR enjoyable 😛

yeah, i agree

Originally posted by Exa
- when you become invisible it's because you enter the wraith world, the void, like a parallel dimension,

whoa when you put on the ring you enter the void???
is this the same void in the silmarilion???

No not THE void but some kind of void... void here meaning empty of life. There cant be life in the twilight there
(cf the words of the Ringwraiths: "there is no life in the cold, in the dark... here in the void there is only death"😉

I think Sauron doesn't disappear because he has a more powerful hold over the ring then the others.

My theory on it is quite similar to Exa's .

The Ring of Power made their wearers invisible by shifting them mostly into the Unseen world. But Sauron already lived in that world as a Maia, an "angelic" spirit. His material body was something deliberately put on, as we put on clothes. Sauron was naturally pure spirit, not a hybrid like mortals, Elves, and Dwarves. Therefore he stays visible.

tanx all 😛

Originally posted by Discos

Ring bearers may also go there, this is why Bilbo, Frodo & Gandalf get to go

i don't remember well but i think sam went there too, didn't he?

Yes he did but several years later

once Rosie dies,

He goes with some other elves I believe I cannot remember that well. but yes as Exa said several years later....many several years 🙂

Sam is a ringbearer!

Okay, since we're on these type of questions... What happened to Radaghast? The other wizard (Istari), I remember that he loved all birds, and that's how Saruman had bird spies. Was he also punished for that, or what?

Radagast the Brown who is also known as Radagast the Fool and Radagast the Simple was not punished for anything. He infact never did anything wrong... he had no idea that what Saruman had in mind. He was mearly a messenger to Gandalf. In many opinions he should be partialy credited with Gandalf's escape. He did send the birds to report to Orthanc, but that was by Gandalf's earlier wishes. And it is because of this that Gandalf was able to escape.

"Yet he had the wit to play the part that I set him. For you have come, and that was all the purpose of my message."
Saruman, FotR, Book 2, Ch.II

As for his fate, it (along with both the Blue Wizards) is unknown.

Originally posted by Exa

I think Sauron doesnt become invisible because he is a Maia

wait, Sauron wasnt a Maia, Melkor was, but Sauron wasnt. at least thats what i thought. cuz i started the Silmarillion (havent finished yet). did i miss something?

Sauron was one of the mightiest (perhaps the mightiest) of the Maiar, and in the beginning of days he served Aulë the Smith.In the earliest days, Melkor seduced Sauron and took him into his own service, and Sauron became the greatest and most trusted of his followers.

Originally posted by ilvorlandobloom
wait, Sauron wasnt a Maia, Melkor was, but Sauron wasnt. at least thats what i thought. cuz i started the Silmarillion (havent finished yet). did i miss something?

Sauron was a Maia. Melkor was a former Ainu. Melkor was the mightiest of them along with Manwe. Melkor is far more powerful than Sauron. Sauron was just Maia of Aule and Melkor later on corrupted him and he became his mightiest and most powerful servant and lieutenant. 😄