Why GL named Dooku Darth Tyrannus...

Started by finti9 pages

ok Leia Organa, Snaggletooth, Lando Carlrissian, Dodonna
Captain Antilles, Gerneral Veers, Captain Needa, Palaptine, Amidala

You haven't even come CLOSE to proving it, bigsef. You've just listed a few names with meanings. So what?

And answer Finti. I suppose that Bail Organa is named after a bucket and Sntilles is named after the islands.

And Chewbacca? Simply a random name he thought up, as he said in interview. And the poor Calamari- named after squids!

The whole 'Sith names meaning something' thing came entirely from Vader, which is highly disputed. They just take and use evil-sounding names. If you are seriously telling me Darth Maul is so named because he mauls people then I am in hysterics!

it amazes me how absent minded people can be when they reply to comments without reading other peoples statements. if you look at the longer post i made a while back, i addressed all those issues. and i mentioned lando by name. suffice to say, none of those are major characters, and this discussion is about major characters.

I read what you said just fine. I am, not even vaguely convinced. You have not come close to forming a coherent argument. You cannot prove any continuous link between character's names and the meanings behind them.

Ush, you didn't asked nicely!

Finti: Organa is a play on words and it's supposed to suggest "organic". It is also an Old French name meaning "Organ Maker". This fits in well with the present "organic" definition. Both give a feeling of anti war - anti "hard -edged technology" as Alderaan certainly is. Lucas originally spelled the name Ogana
Perhaps Organa is related to the name "Morgana." Morgana was the step-sister of King Arthur in the Arthurian cycle of myths.

Palpatine is a major characther

Yerssot- PROVE that. You SAY Organa is meant to suggest organics, but do you have the SLIGHTEST evidence for such a tenuous link? Doubly so your strange Morgana idea.

People read FAR too much into this sort of thing.

Palpatine: may have been derived from a few places.
The word "palpatate," means "a violent, uncontrolled spasm."
The word "palpate" means "examining by feeling."
Also, there was a man in 17th Century Austria named Palatine. He was a lowly senator who manipulated his way into power.
The word palatine, derived from the Latin word "palatinus", has two interesting definitions which have a strange connection to the character of Palpatine. They are:
1. A feudal lord having sovereign power within his domains.
2. A high officer of an imperial palace.

He is called PALPATINE so your expalnation is NADA and a waste of time.

Again, PROVE these links. Look far enough and you can make any name mean anything.

BTW, Chewbacca is ALSO a major character.

Ush, you can't proof these things, you know that!

And I KNOW what his name is finti, you just don't take all the names litterally! (because then everyone knows where it comes from)

Chuwbacco is from Chuwing Tobacco, yes I know, it's one of the few names that don't have anything in comment with the person (perhaps the brown color?)
I never said (I think) that ALL the names have a meaning

oh and the word Vader does in some areas of Norway mean walking in shallow water. 😕 So who is to know

That's feeble for Chewbacca. GL has told us where the name comes from- it just popped into his head one day while he was looking at a dog.

No, you can't prove these things, and they all sound very tenuous. Yet you expect us to accept them all. Strange.

And that's true, Finti. For every relevant base that people can come up with, you can almost always come up with another totally irrelevant one.

This whole naming thing is a theory that no official source has ever even come close to confirming. If you want to discuss theory, fine, but don't expect the rest of us to beleive it and certainly don't tell us to 'deal with it'.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yet you expect us to accept them all.

No

It's just that a lot of those names have strange things attached to themselfs,
indeed, you have Chuwbacca, and R2-D2 and C-3PO (that name came after a few moments in GL's mind)
But there ARE names with a lot of meaning

Well, let's look at the top billed characters:

Luke Skywalker. Luke is a common name, and Skywalker means about as much as Starkiller

Han Solo. You can make a cruse lnik to him wnating to work on his own, but even that doesn't work as he just doesn't like taking orders. He LOVES being in a team.

Leia Organa. Pretty meaningless

Tarkin. Likewise

Vader. RUMOURED to mean Father, but never confirmed and seen as rather suspect in the country from which the word is meant to mean that!

Obi-Wan Kenobi. Good luck! Same again with 'Ben'

The droids: Named, at best, after film reels.

Anakin: A biblical giant? Doubt it! The old theories about the name maning 'unrelated' are pretty out of there as well, now.

Qui-Gonn-Jinn- Probably the most likely to have any meaning

Palpatine: Gets all those Emperor rumours because he sounds like a hill... hmm... not impossible, though.

Yoda: MIGHT mean something as well. Only might.

As a theory, it simply does not hold water!

I'm not doing them all today
Luke: Luke is an English word meaning "light" or "white."
Interestingly enough, Luke is also means "a descendant of Lucas

Tarkin: Wilhuf sounds very Aryan in origin (as do many Imperial names!) Aryans being Caucasian (aha, a link!!!) Aryan from Sanskrit arya - "of noble birth." (note the very English accents of the Imperial officers.)

Tarkin
Tarquinius, Lucrius Pricius: (616 - 579) 5th of the early kings of Rome. Much loved for his wisdom and courage. Defeated both the Latins and Sabines.

Brewsters Dictionary of Phrase and Fable (1956 edit): Tarquin - Tarquinus Sextus (grandson of the above) committed the rape of Lucretia, in revenge for which the Tarquins were banished from Rome and a Republic established.

More likely Luke S sounded good to GL.

Wilhulf not being used in ther film doesn't make it very relevant, though using Germanic naames for Imperials is hardly deep meaning.

And neither Tarquin looks even remotely like a link to ouir favourite planet destroyer.

Strange, Tarquin (if you speak it in the Dutch way) is very similar to Tarkin

That iI don't deny; it's the historical relevance of it I don't get.

wisdom: Tarkin WAS wise, otherwhise you don't become Grand Moff
courage: he led the attack against the rebels, he had plenty of courage (and too much faith) with that