Why GL named Dooku Darth Tyrannus...

Started by Ushgarak9 pages

That is SO lose! So very, VERY lose! There are SO many others who better sum up that quality! Using a Tarquin as a reference for bravery is amazingly odd! To the point of being unbelievable.

yeah, I should be writer 😮‍💨

You're too smart for that.

OK, i am sorry, but what more proof do you need, ush and finiti? youre being absolutely rediculous. yess logically broked down the source of the name palpatine to its roots and what they mean, and possible connections to various past things, and you say to show proof. what kind of proof are you talking about? a scan of george lucas' thoughts?! a statement made by george lucas: "i picked the name so and so because of...." thats absolutely ludicrous. Yess, has shown as much proof as is humanly possible for someone that is not george lucas, or a close associate thereof. theres no way to prove it conclusively. you just have to not be blinded by your own opinions and except the evidence presented

i cannot believe what i'm reading, do you people really believe that gl sat down while writing star wars and thought, "i know I'll think of a name that people in 30 years time will start arguing about." there are that many ancient languages that any sw's name could be construed to mean something.

whats boba fett mean, = some bloke who appears for a minute and falls into some monsters mouth???

i'll admit that maul and sidious sound threatening, as does tyrannus (wheres the proof thats his real name) but all this crap about peoples names meaning, rubbish. i could type all day about sw's symbolism, but most of the time its just gl following basic story telling rules, i.e vaders sabre red, lukes blue. names are just names, we're not talking about roman or greek gods you know.

If it wasn't for the eu and toys we wouldn't know half the names of the sw's characters anyway.

Aryans being Caucasian

Actually Aryan was a race that lived around the areas of Eastern Iran ,Afghanistan and central Asia, they called the land Khorasan.
European scholars have put the word Aryan into association with meaning White europeans and later on .the Nazi used it for what it was worth.
But the Aryan was used to describe these people who where taller and lighter skined than the other innhabitans of that part of the world.
Even today Iran is a non Arabic country with an non arabic language, and the Iranians are lighter skined than their Arabic neighbours.

OK, i am sorry, but what more proof do you need, ush and finiti? youre being absolutely rediculous

Dont be so god damned arogant, we have a different view on this than you have. And you all havent come up with a single argument that can state what you are insinuating at. You listet a lot of bull about some names that are simmilare to the SW names.
Do you really think Lucas stuck his nose into every name there is just to find it suitable to portray a charachter.
An example Vader meaning different things in Dutch and Norwegian. After ESB some "smart people" said oh of course Vader actually means father in Dutch (questionable). This is way to lame...

Originally posted by sand person no. 10
whats boba fett mean, = some bloke who appears for a minute and falls into some monsters mouth???

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Fett probably comes from the word "fetter," which means "to restrict or confine - a chain or bond fastned round the ankle." This sits a little better with the Bounty Hunter lifestyle.

In Polish, Boba means "trapper (usually of marmots)."

i'm not trying to rubbish the idea that SOME names might have a meaning i'm just saying that there are that many languages, different cultures, regional variations on languages that any name in the sw's universe being as diverse as it is could be construed to mean anything. i just find it highly unlikely and improbable that lucas with a cast of thousands would have bothered to have named every character with a special name.

Obviously Porkins that fat x-wing pilot who canned it did look like a pig though. 😂

you see!

yerss has a point you know - vader for one definitely does mean father - maul suggests the type of guy maul is - a ferocious warrior - and tyrannus does mean absolute ruler, which is basically what Dooku is aiming to be - yoda does mean "great warrior" in sanskrit - these are just a few examples - maybe some of the names like chewbacca mean nothing - but a lot of the names have been carefully chosen because of their significance -

there are actually quite a few words that come from Sanskrit in SW...

you see - in episode 2, when we see more of mace windu, his name's significance is gonna become apparent as well
jabba for instance - jabbar is the muslim name for a rogue warrior chief from the middle east around the 13th/14th century.

Weill people STOP stating the Vader=father thing as fact! That this meaning was deliberate is a THEORY, not proof, and stands very badly up to the fact that Vader was NOT Luke's father- or mant to be a father of any sort- when the character was created and named! In the original scipt Vader died at the end of ANH. The whole thing is a nonsense.

And Finti is right, bigsef. If you call that proof you are very arrogant indeed to think we should accept it.

Well, and if Vader died, it could well be that OB1 told Luke later on that Vader was his father

Nope! In the original version, Vader was just a bad guy, he wasn't Anakin.

You're sure? I thought the very first draft was about a father and his son. I think this father-son+redemption thing is where GL started with in he first plae.

Annikin Starkiller was IN the first draft as a character with Luke. All clearly laid out in the BTM cd.

You can also hear GL talking about this original story in the Omnibus programme made about STar Wars, screened on the BBC just before TPM came out. Francis Ford Coppola preferred that original version; GL says how he prefers what he changed it into, of course.

Actually one interesting thing is, the idea that "Darth" would be a prefix to all sith lords was never in Lucas' mind in the beginning - I think that happened only with the TPM ( if that's the way it is in EU then I stand corrected - but I haven't read any EU ) - but that's definitely not the way it was at the time of the OT - because of one exchange between Vader and Obi Wan when they were dueling :
Vader : "When I left you I was but the learner - now I am the master " ( or something like that )
Obi Wan : "Only a master of evil DARTH " - the point being Obi Wan said "Darth" addressing him as if Darth was his first name and Vader his second - now that's not the way it is - Darth is just a common prefix to all sith lords, and Vader is his specific name - but at the time of the OT, or at least at the time of ANH, Lucas definitely had not planned it that way, otherwise he would never allowed a line like "only a master of evil DARTH" - it would have been " only .... evil, Darth Vader ", or " only ...... evil, Vader "

Darth is just a title;

It's not that Master Qui Gon has as first name master