Riddick: "It's been a long time since I've smelled beautiful."
Me: *uncontrollable laughter*
I skimmed through most of the debate already in this forum, and instead of adding to it, I'll just say this:
Overall, I thought the movie was okay. I didn't think it was good, but it wasn't bad. If you're undecided as to whether or not you should see this movie, save your money. If you have a friend that is dying to see it, go ahead and go. It won't kill you, but don't expect to be impressed either.
I’m from waaaaay over on the other side of the pond. Well I think I am anyway. Depends on which side of the pond ya’ll from.
Anyway, COR was released here about a week ago and I quite liked it. I like the way Vin does Ridicks character. It won’t find its way onto my list of best movies ever, but I don’t regret going to see it. It was entertaining, which is as much as I generally expect from a movie. I enjoy being entertained and COR was entertaining. Looking forward to the Prequel.
I remember seeing this movie when it came out and taking a friend along with me who also wanted to see it. I kept telling him how cool I thought 'Pitch Black' was and he had never seen it so he really wasn't sure what to expect. I on the other hand had a better idea of the character and some background on other things after watching the first one. This movie was suppose to be a prequel at first which was a good idea and then Hollywood got greedy like they always do and decided against it. They figured they're would be more money involved if they made it into a trilogy instead. So they completely discarded the idea of creating a serious story where we get a chance to explore Riddick's complex character and instead opt to go for a more viewer friendly mind numbing action packed special effect summer block buster type of movie with somewhat of a ridiculous far fetched story from left field with Necromongers and blah..blah..blah...They basically just took a surprisingly successful cult film like Pitch Black and decided to capitalize on it by expanding it further with a whole new storyline, new characters and basically really had nothing whatsoever to do with the first. Basically what I'm saying is, if you haven't already noticed, is that they sold out big time.
Anyway, all that being said I really didn't think this movie was as bad as some people made it out to be, if you just watch it with the typical mindset of its an entertaining sc-fi action flick with a whole new story line you won't be very disappointed, its no worse than the last two Matrix movies IMO, so if you enjoyed those i really don't see why you wouldn't be able to enjoy this.
On a side note, for those looking for a more in depth explanation of the storyline behind Riddick's character and a semblance of the prequel we were somewhat promised, I know this is gonna sound funny but you'll be able to find it in the form of a video game, the one that was made for this movie called "Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay". Thankfully Diesel liked his character so much that he realized the importance of telling his story even if the studios didn't really care for it, so he and his video game company took a very active role in making this game. The game plays just like a movie and you get to see among other things Riddick's life behind bars @ Butcher Bay and how he got his famous 'shine' on. Pretty interesting cameos from 'Johns' Cole Hauser's character from the first movie and Xzibit playing the role of a tough prison security gaurd. All the voice acting in the game is done by the actual actors themselves including Diesel.
So, instead of 'Chronicles of Riddick' being my video pick of the week, "Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay" is my video game pick of the week. 👆
Originally posted by RZA
This movie was suppose to be a prequel at first which was a good idea and then Hollywood got greedy like they always do and decided against it. They figured they're would be more money involved if they made it into a trilogy instead. So they completely discarded the idea of creating a serious story where we get a chance to explore Riddick's complex character and instead opt to go for a more viewer friendly mind numbing action packed special effect summer block buster type of movie with somewhat of a ridiculous far fetched story from left field with Necromongers and blah..blah..blah...They basically just took a surprisingly successful cult film like Pitch Black and decided to capitalize on it by expanding it further with a whole new storyline, new characters and basically really had nothing whatsoever to do with the first. Basically what I'm saying is, if you haven't already noticed, is that they sold out big time.
Well, "Chronicles" of Riddick means an extended account, which would suggest it's a furthur exploitation of the charcter, who is not at all complex. There's a backstory there, yeah, but he's just an antagonist turned hero.
David Twohy is absolutely not about the money. It makes absolutely no sense to take a cult film's character, and put him in a very, VERY unstable situation of a trilogy. Twohy's a great story writer, and if it takes 3 pieces to complete the project, fine. Considering the lackluster earnings of the first installment, claiming that the sequels will still go on ans planned, regardless of income, sort of dismisses that claim as well.
I, personally, thought the story was incredible, not "blah blah blah". It was the return of larger than life Science Fiction, a la "Dune" and "Star Wars", and it provided some great entertainment, which DID NOT rely on special effects, but a rich story and some fantastic Sci Fi storytelling. Not to mention outstanding acting on everyones part, which isn't always the draw of Sci-Fi.
Can't wait for the sequel, but avoid the animated "Dark Fury". It's worthless and unnecessary, adding nothing to the story.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Well, "Chronicles" of Riddick means an extended account, which would suggest it's a furthur exploitation of the charcter, who is not at all complex. There's a backstory there, yeah, but he's just an antagonist turned hero.
I couldn't disagree more, you're obviously not that familiar with the character. He's so complex in fact, that we still have yet to really learn what the full potential of his powers are. I guess you're not interested in finding out exactly what made him public enemy #1, just a simple antagonist turned hero, that's a bit of an oversimplification to say the least and really doesn't do the character any justice at all. Yeah and Batman is just a victim turned hero 🙄
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
David Twohy is absolutely [b]not about the money. It makes absolutely no sense to take a cult film's character, and put him in a very, VERY unstable situation of a trilogy. Twohy's a great story writer, and if it takes 3 pieces to complete the project, fine. Considering the lackluster earnings of the first installment, claiming that the sequels will still go on ans planned, regardless of income, sort of dismisses that claim as well.[/B]
No, that just proves that they're willing to stuff more crap down our throats that we don't even want or care for. Great writer...hmm...wasn't he the one who also wrote the screenplay for movies like, 'Waterworld', Warlock and Critters 2? The best screen play he wrote IMO was the Fugitive and as we all know that wasn't original. Pitch Black also of course but that really wasn't that hard to write considering the movie really wasn't that complex, basic short and to the point but it worked but definitely not complex at all.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
I, personally, thought the story was incredible, not "blah blah blah". It was the return of larger than life Science Fiction, a la "Dune" and "Star Wars", and it provided some great entertainment, which DID NOT rely on special effects, but a rich story and some fantastic Sci Fi storytelling. Not to mention outstanding acting on everyones part, which isn't always the draw of Sci-Fi.
You do realize you're in the minority when you make these comments? BO and user comments on these boards and elsewhere prove that. Not saying you're wrong mind you, you're obviously entitled to your opinion, just want you to realize you are in the minority. Btw, I wouldn't go as far as comparing this series to Star Wars or Dune, maybe Mad Max but that's it and this movie did rely on special effects quite a bit actually and about Diesel's acting you do realize he was nominated for a Stinker award for his acting in this movie along with movies like CINO?
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Can't wait for the sequel, but avoid the animated "Dark Fury". It's worthless and unnecessary, adding nothing to the story.
I assume you're talking about that 30 min anime cartoon? Never saw it? Did it at least look cool? Was it Japanese or american anime? Oh and I recommend you rent the video game, if you haven't already, you may gain a bit more insight into Riddicks character, beleive it or not. In any case, I think you'll find it very entertaining.
Anyway, all that being said I hope you notice from my original post that I did actually like this movie. Not enough to recommend it, but I did say it was entertaining and went as far as to compare it to the last 2 Matrix movies.
Disclaimer: I really don't wish to get into arguments with people especially not Mods, that's a lose=lose situation IMO. So please take everything I said with a grain of salt and please realize that it wasn't meant to offend. Just a difference of opinion is all. 👆
So, because he was incarcerated means he was complex? He obviously killed people to become the planets most wanted man. It's not wise to assume anything when it comes to me, either. I've been one of the most stout supporters of "Pitch Black"/"Riddick" on these boards. BTW, what "powers"? He's human.
Personally, I don't think I'm in the majority, especially if my opinion is shared with the likes of Roger Ebert, and a gaggle of my Sci Fi friends from reputable Sci Fi movie forums, i.e. Rebelscum.com, the internets premier Star Wars fansite. "Dark Fury" was anime, and it was empty. It was supposed to brige the movies, when all it did was introduce Toombs. I don't own an XBOX, so Butcher Bay is out of the question.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
So, because he was incarcerated means he was complex? He obviously killed people to become the planets most wanted man.
Yeah, and personally I'd like to know how it happened. Did he really kill people for fun or on purpose...hmm....doesn't really seem like the type to me, seems more misunderstood IMO. There are many clues to this in 'Pitch Black' if you pay attention to it. Many things Johns says and some things Riddick says. I'll give you one example of many....
Spoiler:
When Johns refers to their situation as a triage where the weak must be left to die, Riddick tells him "They kept calling it murder when I did it." The implication is that Riddick left people to die, not that he killed them himself. Possibly, therefore, he was wrongly convicted. He does admit to killing "some people" but the implication is that this was to secure his escape.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
It's not wise to assume anything when it comes to me, either. I've been one of the most stout supporters of "Pitch Black"/"Riddick" on these boards. BTW, what "powers"? He's human.
I really don't understand the tone behind what you're saying hear so I'll reserve judgment on it instead. He's not just 'a human', in fact what he is was already explained in the movie. Again I think you need to reacquaint yourself with the character.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Personally, I don't think I'm in the majority, I don't own an XBOX, so Butcher Bay is out of the question.
I didn't say you were in the majority, I said you were in the minority so I agree. Too bad about 'Butcher Bay' it would've given you a better insight into his character.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Save me some time and get to your point, man. How is he anything more than physically human? That's alls I want to know.
I liked it so much the first time I saw it that I even bought the movie... But 5days later I regretted ever buying it...🙂 Sometimes you just grow up fast...
It was a good watch-and-don´t-care-at-all movie, liked Riddick, he´s an antihero, which I have a sweetspot for.
i give it 6.5 stars out of 10...😄