evolution

Originally posted by The Omega
Bardock> In human males, the urethra passes right through the prostate gland, a gland very prone to infection and subsequent enlargement. This blocks the urethra and is a very common medical problem in males. Putting a collapsible tube through an organ that is very likely to expand and block flow in this tube is not good design.
Causing common medixal problems in males in NOT good nor intelligent design, is it.
😄 Goodness. Why is that sexist? It's just a fact.

And I'm just pointing out flaws in the "Intelligent Design" hypothesis for the heck of it, and because it's so darn easy to do.
Maybe this time a Creationist will explain to me why it's "intelligent." 😄

Something to make time pass while we wait for someone to prove Creationism. Just some proof - anything -

For the last time I'm not a creationist I don't belive the universe was created..."All of these so called feathered dinosaurs are dated as younger than the birds Protoavis and Archaeopteryx. As such they can not be ancestors to birds. There is evidence that in at least some cases these so called feathered dinosaurs are really misidentified birds. Also all these fossils are from China. China is known to have a fake fossil industry. This places a question mark on all such finds"

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4229news3-2-2000.asp

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
For the last time I'm not a creationist I don't belive the universe was created..."All of these so called feathered dinosaurs are dated as younger than the birds Protoavis and Archaeopteryx. As such they can not be ancestors to birds. There is evidence that in at least some cases these so called feathered dinosaurs are really misidentified birds. Also all these fossils are from China. China is known to have a fake fossil industry. This places a question mark on all such finds"

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4229news3-2-2000.asp

Actually, the velociraptir had fethers. Not to mention a ton of others. Could you go bak and read my post, it might give you some insight that isnt directed so menacingly against you.

And if you arent for evolution, and not for creationism: what are you for? Do you have a better theory, and if not, why not go along with evidence that has been collected for over a hundred years?

look my point is how are new traits passed aquired and pass down?

I'm not repeating my entire argument over.

http://www.csm.org.uk/news.php?viewmessage=34

Velociraptor fossils don't have feathers there has never been any fossilized velociraptor feathers, except one found in china I belive and that doesn't hold up since china is fake fossil city.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Velociraptor fossils don't have feathers there has never been any fossilized velociraptor feathers, except one found in china I belive and that doesn't hold up since china is fake fossil city.

so, there's a conspiracy by the godless Chinese Communists to spread the idea of dinosaurs with feathers? Oh, and the dinosaurs found with feather IMPRINTS, are not veliciraptors.

Please. Have you ever been on a paleontological dig? Yeah, you don't sound like you have a creationist point of view. In fact, you're starting to sound more and more like Whob.

Stop bullshitting us and just come out of the creationism closet.

Bardock> Argh, my head hurts! 🙂
Should we call the Christian god IT then?? Okay, so maybe this deity had a sense of humour, and found it hilarious to see males suffer from infections in said... area?
I thought the Christian god was supposed to be kind and caring??

Blue Nocturne> You want me to take something from a site called answersingensis serious? What paleaontologist made those claims? Where does he/she have a professorship? What scientific magazines have they published their findings in?
Of course you're a Creationist. Just still looking for those proofs, aren't you 😉

Capt> "so, there's a conspiracy by the godless Chinese Communists to spread the idea of dinosaurs with feathers? Oh, and the dinosaurs found with feather IMPRINTS, are not veliciraptors."
You know, having read some stuff on Ultrafundamentalist Christians and their ideas, I wouldn't be surprised if their ONLY argument against the Chinese findings would be something as desperate as this...
It's actually quite hilarious! 🙂))

Originally posted by The Omega
Bardock> Argh, my head hurts! 🙂
Should we call the Christian god IT then?? Okay, so maybe this deity had a sense of humour, and found it hilarious to see males suffer from infections in said... area?
I thought the Christian god was supposed to be kind and caring??

I suppose he is supposed top be supposedly caring and good (which are obviously very subjective terms), but we were talking about Intelligent Design, not Christian Creationism....

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
look my point is how are new traits passed aquired and pass down?

I'm not repeating my entire argument over.

http://www.csm.org.uk/news.php?viewmessage=34

You sir, are a fool who knows nothing about natural selection and evolution.

The trait that is AQUIRED, is not passed down at all! it's genetically impossible to pass down an aquired trait!

What happens is that those animals who do NOT have the necessary trait to survive DIE OUT, and those who do hold the trait live on to BREED more of their species with that specific trait.

Any random genetic mutation that is beneficial to the survival of the species obviously stays, by means of the above explination.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
You sir, are a fool who knows nothing about natural selection and evolution.

The trait that is acquired, is not passed down at all! it's genetically impossible to pass down an acquired trait!

What happens is that those animals who do NOT have the necessary trait to survive DIE OUT, and those who do hold the trait live on to BREED more of their species with that specific trait.

Any random genetic mutation that is beneficial to the survival of the species obviously stays, by means of the above explination.

mutations cannot create new traits or be beneficial it's common sense please name one beneficial mutation and I'll shut up, And I know you cannot pass down acquired trait that's why lamarckism was rejected

EDIT: I'm taking about 100% beneficial.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
mutations cannot create new traits or be beneficial it's common sense please name one beneficial mutation and I'll shut up, And I know you cannot pass down acquired trait that's why lamarckism was rejected

EDIT: I'm taking about 100% beneficial.

A lack of information is not evidence.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
A lack of information is not evidence.

Despite the fact all experiments end in failure trying to prove mutations create new traits.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Despite the fact all experiments end in failure trying to prove mutations create new traits.

I didn't say that it can't be proven, just that I don't know. The fact that I don't know is not evidence for anything other then my own ignorance. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I didn't say that it can't be proven, just that I don't know. The fact that I don't know is not evidence for anything other then my own ignorance. 😆

So how can a theory with barely any evidence and so many "I don't know's hold up"?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
So how can a theory with barely any evidence and so many "I don't know's hold up"?

Yes, if it is the only good one out there. To put down evolution, you have to replace it with something.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, if it is the only good one out there. To put down evolution, you have to replace it with something.

Evolution ranks with creationism they both have concept of faith and imaginary acts like mutations creating new organs, well at least
darwinsim does.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Evolution ranks with creationism they both have concept of faith and imaginary acts like mutations creating new organs, well at least
darwinsim does.

You will never get away from that. So, give us the correct answer.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You will never get away from that. So, give us the correct answer.

You mean the answer you wanna hear, do you believe in darwinsim if so why?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You mean the answer you wanna hear, do you believe in darwinsim if so why?

It is the best theory out there. Do you know one that is better?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is the best theory out there. Do you know one that is better?

That's it?
I haven't looked yet.