Why didn´t Yoda and Obi Wan train luke and/or leia to be Jedis?

Started by jedi fernando2 pages

Why didn´t Yoda and Obi Wan train luke and/or leia to be Jedis?

I think they were afraid for them to suffer their father´s fate.

perhaps, but someone needed to be trained so the prophecy could get happened

yeah, but OB1 gets old on tatooine, I think waiting for something to happen. An I think taht it was the Leias message. I think that it was a "secret code" created By Yoda, OB1 and Bail Organa to start the Luke training

good to have you back pel!!

I like that idea, and it could make sense... I mean, looking at OB1's face...

i like that: leias message being " a secrete code" maybe it wasn´t all yoda´s idea, but when living leia to bail organa they told him to teach leia that when being in a big big trouble call general ben kenobi who is on tatooine for help. then ben would know what to do, and coz the force is strong with the skywalkers r2 ended up with luke who brought it himself to ben and that´s why ben was so thoughtful when he realised this. he saw how the force was playing its cards, and it was really clear to him what to do. go to alderaan and meet bail organa.

but why go to bail organa and not yoda?

Hmm. I think that perhaps Yoda and Ben didn't think that the prophacy was true. How could they think the chosen one helped destroy all of the Jedi?

Yoda and Ben knew Luke was Anakins son. But I think Ben hid on Tatooine, waiting for Luke to make the first move.

In other words, once Luke showed up with R2, Ben knew it was destiny, and that Luke had the power to save them all.

If Anakin was too old to be trained in the ways of the force, why wasn't Luke deemed to be too old?

I know that Uncle Owen was not too keen on Luke following his father, but Obi-Wan did not have to take Luke to Owen, he could have just taken him somewhere to train, so Why didn't Obi-Wan start training him from an early age?

I think they waited for the resistance to grow stronger, waited for a civil war. Kind of hard to train two jedis without any army to back them up against the Galactical Empire

What about the fact that Luke was a lot older than Anakin, yet they did not deem him too old?

he was very force strong and their only hope, yet their was another one but I guess he was most potential of them.
I think the time was right when they went looking for Obi Wan on Tattooine, it was then time to bring back the jedi

Fear of the Dark side...Anakin, as we see, is slowly being drawn into the Dark side would Luke and Leia be more like their father or their mother. What would it take to trigger either one of them to follow their father? Or would the goodness of their mother prevail?

As for the coded message from Leia to Luke


This is our most desperate hour.
Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.

R2 seeks Luke, finds him, gives him a glimpse of the message, sets his path on finding Obiwan, Obiwan begins the trails, Luke shows promise...the rest is history.

It's an intersting concept

No point reading too much into all that. Just take it as we see it. Leia was sent by Bail to retrieve Obi-Wan but was intercepted on the way and recorded an emergency message for him. It could not, therefore, have been a code and she had no idea about Luke or any such thing. Obi-Wan just improvised on the spot.

As it is, Luke would still not have gone with Obi-Wan if the Empire hadn't killed his family.

I think it had something to do with them hiding from the Emperor and Vader.....force exercises on a desert world would prob attract atention...besides Uncle Owen would absolutely flip if Luke were being trained

errr... what would cause problems? it's a pretty big desert, chances to meet someone are small

Why wasn't Luke taken to Dagobah and trained from a VERY early age to become a Jedi? There would have been no detection and if Yoda and/or Obi-Wan had stayed and trained him and possibly Leia as well they could have been extremely powerful in the force and able to defeat the Emperor and Vader

well they couldnt have done it without the aid of an uprising against the emperor.

Why not

Why not? Well, to be honest, Luke was almost totally irrelevant in Return of the Jedi, wasn't he? He did nothiong to help win the war whatsoever; the Rebels won on their own steam. Which I still think is a huge flaw; a direct link SOULD have been made between Luke and victory, as it is even if he had failed the Death Star would have been destroyed with all on it.

Until Episode III we have no idea why they didn't start to train Luke at once (and wait for the uprising and present him as fully trained) but I suspect it made sense at the time. Maybe the Emperor might have been able to predict the coming of a new Jedi if they had started to train him at once- after all, the Emperor felt something in the Force once Luke started his training. I am not saying that you can just detect a Force User like that, as Yoda proves, but he CAN navigate the future and the return of a Jedi could well be something he would pick up if one was being trained.

It is possible that Obi-Wan let Owen and Beru bring up Luke, rather than doing it himself, precisely to keep Luke in a mundane environment where his powers would remain limited.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Until Episode III we have no idea why they didn't start to train Luke at once (and wait for the uprising and present him as fully trained) but I suspect it made sense at the time.

perhaps a link to the bible with the egyptian story where they murdered the kids... or the other way around, I can't remember correctly

Yeah, but no-one knows about these kids.