you have to er... basically sit in a quite room, possibly insence for the first couple of times, and just concentrate on seeing yourself, from a third person, and then try and be with yourself, you should be able to kinda sit in yourself, but not see, thru your eyes, and you should feel warm, and at peace, its really hard to describe, tonight try and just completely relax and thats the best way to start
Originally posted by thorncrawler
you have to er... basically sit in a quite room, possibly insence for the first couple of times, and just concentrate on seeing yourself, from a third person, and then try and be with yourself, you should be able to kinda sit in yourself, but not see, thru your eyes, and you should feel warm, and at peace, its really hard to describe, tonight try and just completely relax and thats the best way to start
they say that if you see yourself through the eyes of a primitive 3rd person (like you know, the first humans that walked the earth, who didnt know how to speak etc. yet) that works the best. I have problems concentrating though, I always have other things on my mind. WHat should I do about that?
Originally posted by SAtown_punk
HerrLogan, you have the hollywood version of what witchcraft is. Why don't you research it before you criticize the people practicing it. Witchcraft is about self-enlightenment, not unlike Buddhism. Witches worship nature. Witches are VERY trustworthy, except for those who practice black magick. "Good" Witches really just want to keep to themselves, not scare anybody.
You're acting your age for sure, little man. I don't have the wrong idea at all. I never said that black magic was scary. I never gave any credibility to your little rituals at all. You missed the point I was making. Let me try again, and try to keep up this time.
Practicing witchcraft is similar to the ancient Greeks and Romans making offerings to their gods. It's a primitive and uneducated thing to do. However, it's worse than that, because we live in an age where people should know better than to believe in such nonsense, so I have much less respect for Wiccans than I do ancient primitive people.
Wiccans are not trustworthy because they are either stupid or crazy, not unlike every religion in existence. They worship nature, you say? That's exactly why intelligent people shouldn't trust them. The fact that they worship anything at all means they aren't on the same level as rational people. Grow up and stop justifying your little fantasy world. As I said before, when I claim that I can see through walls like Superman and jump over canyons like the Hulk, then you are welcome to judge me as I've judged you people. If you act irrational, you're going to be called irrational. It's something adults like to call "cause and effect", and something most people call honesty. I know honesty isn't something with which you're familiar. You have to be honest with yourself before you can be honest with other people. If you believe the lie that witchcraft and other religious practices is more than a child's game, then every time you tell someone what you believe, you are lying to them as well. Does that make sense to you?
I never said you were trying to scare people. I said you were scary because you're not right in the head, and you could end up being president or something. No one is afraid of Wiccans except for other stupid religious people. I pretty much told you that, didn't I? Your nonsense beliefs contradict their nonsense beliefs, and because they are also weak-minded and insecure, that actually matters to them. Grow up, all of you.
I can't wait to see what kind of nonsense you come up with next. Probably you'll lie some more about your "nature worshipping," and you'll throw around weak, meaningless terms like "closed-minded." I'm outside your little fantasy, and you're in the middle of it. I'd call that more open-minded, because I'm not blinded by fairy tales and pretentious airs like you are. That's what I hate most about Wiccans, they are pretentious posers who will grow out of it within a few years or they really have a serious mental condition that makes them unfit to be part of decent society, just like cult leaders, pious Christians, and other religious nuts.
In all actuality, Logan, this is nothing more than your opinion, and you are entitled to it. But I daresay you have no right to call Wiccans and/or christians and/or anybody who worships something "irrational", "stupid" or "crazy". They are none of these things they choose to believe in something, whether it's because they want to believe there is somewhere they can go when they die, or maybe it's because they just want to believe that not everything we do is bad. Whatever the reason, you have no right to say that they are wrong for worshiping a god. You also have no right to say that the things that witches or christians practice are lies. That is your opinion as well, and do not bash the people who believe such things.
Nobody in their right mind claims to be able to see through walls and jump over canyons. Witches don't claim this, and I don't know where you are getting this misconception.
I don't necessarily believe in a god, and I think organized religion is a sham, but that doesn't mean I'm right. Maybe there is a god of some sort, and all the religions have gotten it all wrong. But that's irrelevant because it is ultimately a decision of what you, and you alone, want to believe. My age has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and you saying that I'm a "little boy" and I should "grow up" is completely asinine. The fact that I'm 16 does not take away from the fact that I know what I'm talking about, that I'm well-educated, and that I can engage in civil conversations such as this. I would ask to not bring up my age again, as it holds no precedence over what I'm trying to say.