How do you know what he ends up like? Have you seen ROTS already? By the end of ANH, Luke was still whiny, it wasn't until ESB that he really started to become the great Jedi he was. Anakin was whiny in AOTC, but just like Luke, in ROTS you'll see him mature and not be so whiny, but instead be a killing machine that is Darth Vader. He did just as good against Dooku as Obi Wan did, so no, he won't get his ass kicked.
Originally posted by BackFire
It doesn't fit the storyline better.
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I figured an answer like that was coming, if you don't understand why it is put in there, don't say it's dumb and tacky. I'm not even going to explain it again, cause it obviously won't make a difference. I just wonder why everyone hates on Hayden so much, just because he played a whiny young adult when the scipt called for it? I suggest anybody that thinks his acting is bad to watch Shattered Glass, and if you still think he's horrible, nothing will change your opinion.
Originally posted by cal31
How is it tacky and stupid when it fits the storyline better? 🙄 🙄
How does that fit the story? Luke never met a younger version of his father. So what's the point of putting a young Anakin ghost in the final scene? If you gonna say "is because it was good Anakin" then that's inconclusive. Anakin redeem himself by throwing the Emperor into the void. So became good again at an old age. Or if you gonna say "is because all Jedi's become young ghosts again when they die" then that also would be inconclusive since is quite obvious Obi and Yoda ghosts still remain old.
Originally posted by cal31
I suggest anybody that thinks his acting is bad to watch Shattered Glass, and if you still think he's horrible, nothing will change your opinion.
Shattered Glass is a good movie with a good script and people. I dont blame hayden for the duff performance and crappy character - Darth George has simply forgotten what SW was supposed to about and has no clear vision of what he's doing now.
Originally posted by WindDancer
How does that fit the story? Luke never met a younger version of his father. So what's the point of putting a young Anakin ghost in the final scene? If you gonna say "is because it was good Anakin" then that's inconclusive. Anakin redeem himself by throwing the Emperor into the void. So became good again at an old age. Or if you gonna say "is because all Jedi's become young ghosts again when they die" then that also would be inconclusive since is quite obvious Obi and Yoda ghosts still remain old.
It was the young Anakin because the real Anakin died when he fell into the lava, after that he was not Anakin anymore, but Darth Vader. When he throws the Emperor over the edge, he is not Anakin, he is Darth Vader with a memory of who he used to be.
Originally posted by Mr Zero
Shattered Glass is a good movie with a good script and people. I dont blame hayden for the duff performance and crappy character - Darth George has simply forgotten what SW was supposed to about and has no clear vision of what he's doing now.
I see where you're coming from, I just hate it when people say Hayden is a horrible actor and that he ruined Anakin and made him a wuss, when I feel he just was performing what the script called for. Also, I don't think most of the acting in AOTC is worse than that in ANH. In ANH, Harrison Ford gave the only great performance, IMO, and the rest were just ok. In AOTC, Mcgregor and Ian Mcdarmid gave the best performances, and the rest were just ok. The only differences with AOTC being that there were a couple horrible scenes, where in ANH there really weren't any below average scenes.
No one here has called Hayden a bad actor, that's poor reading comprehension on your part.
Your explaination of "anakin died when he was younger yadda yadda yadda" is also down to opinion. It could very easily be interprited that Anakin was NOT dead after all, he was Anakin deep down somewhere, and that goodness in him came about when he saved Luke from the Emperor.
The main reason I don't like this change, is because it was pointless. It didn't make the movie any better, if anything, it hurt the movie, because pointless changes are always going to confuse an audience.
Originally posted by OB1-adobe
how can you expect great acting in a star wars movie
OT : Unknowns taking a ludicrous story deadly seriously, just like the serial pulps that inspired it....
Have you heard or read the transcripts of the tapes made during the filming ESB of the actors arguing about motivation and bickering over each line and if it was in character? (hence Harison Fords genuius "I know" retort to Leia - far more Han that what Darth George would have had him say.... )
New movies: big name actors phoning in less than convincing performances against a green screen. The only great actor in the new movies was yoda.
Originally posted by cal31
It was the young Anakin because the real Anakin died when he fell into the lava, after that he was not Anakin anymore, but Darth Vader. When he throws the Emperor over the edge, he is not Anakin, he is Darth Vader with a memory of who he used to be.
If Anakin fell into whatever and was no longer Anakin, then why he pursues his son to join him? If he no longer is Anakin, but instead Darth Vader then why would he had memories of Obi? It's flawed! Also if he is no longer Anakin, why does Luke kept insisting that he could bring back his Father back to the Light when all along he was referring to Darth Vader/Anakin? All that stuff of Anakin ceased to exist and was taken by Darth Vader would only work if Darth Vader would not have any memories of his past. Anakin never died he was just consume by the dark side of the force. In other words he was blind (not literaly) by the power of the dark side. When he saw his son Luke being burn alive by electric discharges, the light side came back to Darth Vader/Anakin and he redeem himself. Thus returning to the light side. Catching my drift?
As for Hayden being a bad actor....No, don't get me wrong. I may not like him but I really don't like his performances. He might be suited for other roles, but for me his acting in AOTC wasn't very interesting.
👽 When he became Darth vader like Obi wan said he lost all that was anakin and became the dark side of anakin which may have retained his memories which included knowing who Obi wan was " Now the circle is complete when i left you i was just a pupil now I am the master" that was what Darth said to Obi wan in ANH.