Ush> I’ve never attempted suicide. I’ve been depressed once or twice, but I doubt it even qualifies as clinical depressions. I only thought about taking my life once, as a teen-ager, when i had a broken heart. It was more the cry-for-help scenario, though, and thankfully my friends reacted on it.
Babeyx> Well, Cobain succeeded. But people who ATTEMPT suicide and fail, are breaking the law “dumbass”.
I don’t know if suicide is selfish as such. If I’m old, and unable to take care of myself, feeling my life has already ended, I think I should be allowed to choose death. If my family doesn’t want me to, THEY are the ones being selfish. I (as old, helpless and in pain) am not just choosing death out of the blue, I wish to die with dignity. My family should respect that.
If I’m terminally ill it’s the same business.
I should be allowed to sign a will saying, that if I end in the kind of come, the doctors know only one in a million wake from, they can shut off the life-support. Even if I wake up, the chances I’ll be a helpless vegetable for the rest of my life are staggering. I do not wish to live like that.
But what do WE know? Any terminally ill people here? Any old, helpless people in a lot of pain? Anyone with a clinical depression??
To the best of my knowledge, we’re all fairly healthy, in good shape and young. So death perhaps becomes a “theoretical” thing. I know that right now I sure as hell don’t want to die.
Even if we agree there are these three cases, where suicide should be allowed (terminally ill; old helpless and in pain; comatose or vegetable), I’m afraid it can’t be separated from society and how it works.
Originally posted by The Omega
I don’t know if suicide is selfish as such. If I’m old, and unable to take care of myself, feeling my life has already ended, I think I should be allowed to choose death. If my family doesn’t want me to, THEY are the ones being selfish. I (as old, helpless and in pain) am not just choosing death out of the blue, I wish to die with dignity. My family should respect that.
If I’m terminally ill it’s the same business.
But what do WE know? Any terminally ill people here? Any old, helpless people in a lot of pain? Anyone with a clinical depression??
To the best of my knowledge, we’re all fairly healthy, in good shape and young. So death perhaps becomes a “theoretical” thing. I know that right now I sure as hell don’t want to die.
Even if we agree there are these three cases, where suicide should be allowed (terminally ill; old helpless and in pain; comatose or vegetable), I’m afraid it can’t be separated from society and how it works. [/B]
Yeah, this is called "Euthanasia", choosing to end your own life or have it ended for reasons to do with dignity and such. No-one wants to live helplessly and hopelessly, and the choice of whether to live or die should remain the individual's, as long as they are mentally stable enough to make that decision, if not physically. If their mentality is waning, perhaps they should be able to leave the decision with one much trusted member of their family, or a very close friend. But this brings problems when it comes to complete trust. I don't know if this is how it works now, but I hope that, if I ever become terminally ill, or end up a "vegetable", as it were, that I should have the final choice as to which direction, inevitably, my life should take.
hmmm, what I think FM perhaps means with suicide being selfish, is that you kill yourself and don't think about what others would feel like when you're gone...
quite frankly, if you want to commit suicide, you don't think for one instant about others, most of the time you think no one will miss you and that you're better off dead