RP General Discussion

Started by Ushgarak685 pages

Mind you, let's not make this a purely Star Wars thing. The number of women in the OT might be absurdly low, which is very notable, but even if there had been more they wouldn't have done much. You could argue that it is based on a genre (early 20th century sci-fi) where attitudes were different- this applies just as much to Indiana Jones.

It's really part of fiction in general. Take the Matrix- again, a strong female character in Trinity. But what is her purpose? Again to be the love interest for the lead- indeed, the whole plot literally depends on Neo being in love with her. And many of her more positive aspects are, frankly, routed through her... being like a man.

Two decades between Star Wars and the Matrix, but it is only the presentation that has changed, not the fundamentals.

But all that said, Star Wars is particularly guilty; scantily clad female syndrome all the way (note Obi-Wan never felt the need to fight topless).

And I would widen this accusation to virtually all Star Wars media. I know the EU is very wide and what-not and has had room for female characters (even a female Sith who isn't a sexy boob-focussed fighter in KOTOR 2, though sadly they made a pants-up of that), but frankly when people think of a Jedi they think of a man and when they think of a Sith they think of a man and the whole mythology is almost stiflingly male dominated.

Of course, the planet we charmingly called "planet of the force moos" is a bit of a crowbar-to-the-face way of making the point, but that's half the fun of Star Wars. You keep things simple and direct and have fun with it.

Oh yes, I know it's definitely an issue that's not confined to just Star Wars. I mean, I am a girl. If anyone's going to notice a lack of strong female characters that have a purpose other than falling in love with the hero, it's going to be me more than anyone else. And yes, I definitely notice it, and it definitely irritates me greatly.

And it's a big reason why, when it comes to books, for the most part I tend to stick with YA fantasy and stuff like that. I love LOTR, but it's not something you read looking for female characters that really do anything (Galadriel is awesome, but barely there. Eowyn is awesome, but then goes "And I'm done being a badass now" when she falls in love. Arwen...just pines after Aragorn. No thanks.). Within the YA genre there's much less of it - romance exists but it's not the only purpose the female characters have. There's a reason why Tamora Pierce has remained my favorite author since I was a kid.

Video games are also pretty bad with this which makes me go aarrrrggggh.

This is definitely a topic that I can stay on forever.

Isn't that Rianna's entire purpose within our group?

Well, I'm fairly sure at this point at least part of her purpose is to frustrate the hell out of the guys because she won't sleep with any of them...😛

Also to amuse me. Which that also accomplishes.

Yea I think that is pretty much Rianna 😛

Not all Star Wars movies even failed the Bechdel Test apparently, though I can't remember any scene, but a mind boggling amount of others do, a lot of media is rather male focus

[edit] Edited, cause I thought that all Star Wars films failed, however apparently they didn't all

Originally posted by Peach
Well, I'm fairly sure at this point at least part of her purpose is to frustrate the hell out of the guys because she won't sleep with any of them...😛

Also to amuse me. Which that also accomplishes.

Shouldn't that, ya know, also frustrate your character on some level? I honestly haven't really figured out the entirety of Ti's approach to sexuality. She's Zeltron, so she's going to wear her sexuality on her sleeve as a byproduct of the species and culture. But I don't want to be a man playing as female as completely slutty, thus completing the stereotype of how we view women in such adventures.

Roleplaying for real is serious business.

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Nah, she doesn't really care. She's not intentionally like "I'm going to annoy the hell out of them by flirting and then refusing to do anything" (pretty sure she's not even capable of flirting with anyone), she just...doesn't really care at all.

That and at any given point in time she's only a few words from trying to kill half of them anyway 😛 Though we've had a long-running joke for a few years now that one day she and Galder are going to cave in, sleep with each other, and manage to last for a few days before one of them winds up snapping and killing the other.

A few days? They're gonna be found dead in bed the next morning.

That is a distinct possibility.

Hahahaha, I'm boxing with a lizardman. I feel good. 😆

Originally posted by Peach
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Nah, she doesn't really care. She's not intentionally like "I'm going to annoy the hell out of them by flirting and then refusing to do anything" (pretty sure she's not even capable of flirting with anyone), she just...doesn't really care at all.

That and at any given point in time she's only a few words from trying to kill half of them anyway 😛 Though we've had a long-running joke for a few years now that one day she and Galder are going to cave in, sleep with each other, and manage to last for a few days before one of them winds up snapping and killing the other.

I really want to meet up with Rianna in-game. I think it would be a magnificent display of comedic sexuality, pestering, and rage.

Doubt it'll happen, but meh.

Originally posted by Digi
I really want to meet up with Rianna in-game. I think it would be a magnificent display of comedic sexuality, pestering, and rage.

Doubt it'll happen, but meh.

Hahahaha, that would have the potential to just be epic. And hilarious.

I need a few campaigns under my belt first though. I want to buy the initially-restricted Seduction ability. That could really liven up the proceedings.

*We meet*
"Ok, make a saving roll against my tongue, b*tch."

😛

Originally posted by Digi
I need a few campaigns under my belt first though. I want to buy the initially-restricted Seduction ability. That could really liven up the proceedings.

*We meet*
"Ok, make a saving roll against my tongue, b*tch."

😛

...the best part about that?

The fact that I've been joking for years about using xp to buy Seduction. Even though it'd be wildly out of character, simply because it'd be so damn funny.

See, I thought my sh*t through before making my character. It's completely in character for me.

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Originally posted by Digi
See, I thought my sh*t through before making my character. It's completely in character for me.

😊

😛

Not that Rianna really needs that skill anyway, since it seems pretty much everyone hits on her constantly...

Hey now. If anyone has a distracting, seductive tongue, it's the lizard. 😄

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Ohhh, I see what you did there...😖hifty:

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Yeah, I believe skills being Restricted just means you can't get them at character creation if you are able to do so, or Ush can tell you he doesn't want you to have it if he feels there's nowhere your character would have picked it up or no reason they would have it.

Not that I'm getting it, but Heavy Weapons would be very in-character for Galder.

I'm not actually really sure how to proceed with Galder's xp spending after this game. Do I want to keep amping up his skills or get new ones?