Originally posted by Ushgarak
Please read the thread through. That Nazgul pic, and the Gollum pic, were posted in error and were not from that animated version in which the Nazguls were much better.
Only slightly better, being merely hooded figures with red eyes.
Major problems wit the Nazgul included:
1) The absolutely hilarious hobbling around all curled up .
2) The inability to control a horse (on the way to the Ford).
3) The tendency to pretend to be the four horsemen of the apocalypes in a ridiculously overwrought sky
4) The tendency to just stop instead of actually chasing anyone
Major Problems with Saruman:
WELL is iit Saruman or Aruman? Make up your damn minds!
Major Problems with Sam:
He's a deformed moron
Major Problems with Gollum:
In a truly shocking performance he sounds more like Ron Moody's Fagin than a suitable Gollum, one half expects him to launch into a rendition of...
Ohh you've got to pick a pocket or two boys,
you've got a pick a pocket or two...
my precious
Major Problems with the Balrog
1) Its only slightly taller than gandalf
2) Its clearly a rotoscope of a man wearing a fake lions head, butterfly wings and moon boots
3) It flies like the sh*tty reptile birds in At the Earth's Core
4) its just AWFUL
Other problems:
Aragorn appears to have become a native american (but with John Hurts voice)
Boromir looks frankly ridiculous
Treebeard is a disaster
hmm am i running out of space
Well I liked how PJ did the first movie with the Balrog because at some shots of the Balrog it didn't have wings and at some shots, it did. so fans could continue to debate on if the Balrog had wings or not, but since in TT we finally see that the Balrog have stupid wings that long debate was finished. 🙁
Originally posted by sauron
actually thats how big a balrog should bethey were actually of basic human form, but slightly larger
Not really
they can change their size - appear bigger when they surround themselves with shadows 😛
But I think in the book the Balrog was twice as tall as Gandalf
Their size (and number) is changed a lot in Tolkien's works, first there were hundreds of Balrogs only a little taller than men, in the end seven Balrogs, but far more mighty.
About the wings thing... I dont think they were supposed to have real wings, I loved how that looked in FoTR (as Kit said 😄 ) with the shadows that somehow looked like wings, somehow didnt. Great.
In "Morgoths Ring" Tolkien writes about Balrogs:
"Swiftly they arose, and they passed with winged speed over Hithlum, and they came to Lammoth as a tempest of fire...",
but Tolkien often uses the term "wing" for speed - like in the Lay of Amroth and Nimrodel.
Originally posted by glaurung
Only slightly better, being merely hooded figures with red eyes.Major problems wit the Nazgul included:
1) The absolutely hilarious hobbling around all curled up .
2) The inability to control a horse (on the way to the Ford).
3) The tendency to pretend to be the four horsemen of the apocalypes in a ridiculously overwrought sky
4) The tendency to just stop instead of actually chasing anyoneMajor Problems with Saruman:
WELL is iit Saruman or Aruman? Make up your damn minds!Major Problems with Sam:
He's a deformed moronMajor Problems with Gollum:
In a truly shocking performance he sounds more like Ron Moody's Fagin than a suitable Gollum, one half expects him to launch into a rendition of...
Ohh you've got to pick a pocket or two boys,
you've got a pick a pocket or two...
my preciousMajor Problems with the Balrog
1) Its only slightly taller than gandalf
2) Its clearly a rotoscope of a man wearing a fake lions head, butterfly wings and moon boots
3) It flies like the sh*tty reptile birds in At the Earth's Core
4) its just AWFULOther problems:
Aragorn appears to have become a native american (but with John Hurts voice)
Boromir looks frankly ridiculous
Treebeard is a disasterhmm am i running out of space
Well, I think you are entirely wrong about the Nazguls- I rate them superior to the move ones.
Time to stick my neck out... I preferred the Ralph Bakshi Cartoon to the new movie... it took fewer liberties with the book, and the Nazgul were far better. FOTR was the best of the movies, but I fell asleep in ROTK... and i first read LOTR when I was 8. I've read it every year since, and the Peter jackson version was just too Hollywood for me.