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How many masks are currently in rotation?

There’s like four in rotation right now.

Are there differences between them?

Oh, yeah. No doubt. Different accessories, different upgrades. One may be more lighter. But I don’t want to go too much into the technological side of it. I don’t want no leaks of information, know what I’m saying? But there’s definitely different technological differences in each one, weight differences, some is for black-tie affairs, one is maybe for more of a Wetlands-type show where you might jump in the crowd.

One of my friends worked on a Philly show with you a while back at Fluid. He said you were a cool cat the whole time – until you threw the mask on and completely changed. Is that accurate?

Well, I’m like this – I compare it to a robbery. That’s the best way to describe it. Right before a robbery, you might be staking out the joint. Go in there, eat a sandwich or whatever, play like you a patron. Scoping the scene out, you don’t want to bring too much attention to yourself. But once you throw on the mask and you grab the heater – it’s a stickup! It’s different; the dude sitting there isn’t the guy that robbed the store. Once he takes the mask off, he goes back to normal. So in a way, it’s true. It works like that.

According to Danger Mouse, DangerDoom was under construction for almost two years. But between this, MM…Food and MadVillain, you’ve been really productive. Is there some sort of work regiment you use?

It’s weird. Sometimes I look online or I might read an article and it says there’s a lot of stuff coming out. But to me it don’t seem like it’s that much. I could be doing more. But when the creative spurt does happen, it’s like “Baow!” If you know how to do something, you just do it. It clicks, automatic. I plan to increase the productivity at this point; I feel like I’m kinda slacking. I’m trying to get more into my studying -- to have more things to talk about, to broaden my range a little bit. I hope the party people out there ain’t getting too tired of a nigga. I know they seen a nigga name here and there, but I’m like, “Yo, anything y’all hear definitely gonna be different.” The rhymes is gonna be on point. I ain’t really just throwing records out there to hear myself talk. I don’t even want to hear myself rhyme, really. But, when it’s time for them to cop, there will be updated info and new styles and all that good shit.

Why don’t really like hearing yourself rap?

I’m not the kind of cat that don’t like hearing his own voice – I mean, I like it -- but I spit it once, I hear it, okay, fine. I’m not going to keep listening to it. I do that shit, put it to the side and go do the next one. You know how you got that cat in the circle, he’s just talking and rambling on like he gotta hear his own voice? Or cats that put records out with that bullshit? You know records that be like that. It’s the same thing. For me, I’d rather not speak; I’d rather hear what the next cat got to say – [he might] drop jewels that come around to me. If it comes around to me and I got to add on, I’ll add on.

So you don’t get in the Doom Mobile and there’s a bunch of Viktor Vaughn shit there?

Nah, nah. Definitely not. My wife will tell you: I get in the truck, she turns that shit off. She and the kids listen to it all day – I get in, that shit come out. I don’t want to hear none of that, that’s work. Throw a beat on, some instrumental music, Jazz, whatever, anything else besides that.

Besides the music we’ve heard, do you have Tupac-status vaults of material sitting around?

Hmmm. That’s an interesting question. It’s weird, I’ve got a bunch of notebooks with mad shit in them that I ain’t ****ed with yet. So, in a way, I do have shit sitting around, but it ain’t refined enough to put out like that. I still got to put it through the editing process and all the difference processes I put it through to make it to that point. So, in a way, I do got it stocked up and in a way I don’t -- ‘cause lately I just been using just new shit off the top, boom. So shit is piling up. Right now I’m been giving them the spontaneous, come-off-the-top, thought-about-it-that-day, kinda rhymes. For the DangerDoom project, it was half and half. Some premeditated with the notebook, but when I hear the beat, I’ll write it right there in a few hours from scratch. As opposed to a Doom album, I’ll take more time and each song will have a topic and it’ll be more structured. You can tell it’s not as spontaneous as MadVillain, which was 100% “throw the beat on” – I didn’t have nothing pre-thought of or no type of format. [DangerDoom] wasn’t too tied into the cartoon theme, but it’s got enough references. Did you hear the album?

Yeah, I heard it.

So you already know the thunder. [laughs]

Nice interview, he seems like a real eccentric. 😮‍💨

Great article.

Doom sure knows what works. Him, Dangermouse, and Adult Swim is just a perfect combination.

I'll have to play the track with Space Ghost to my Dad because both of use are huge Space Ghost Coast to Coast fans. 😄

After gettin a few albums of his and gruf's and pip skid's solo stuff, man holy sh*t, I really didnt realize how dope of a producer mcenroe was until just now. I thought he was alright before but just listening to all these songs, I have so many favourites. He's up there in my top 3 producers for sure.

He did the beats on lets just call you quits too, right?

mcenroe is great and all, but im still amazed by gruf. in my opinion, he's lyrically the best on p&c (maybe im saying this cuz he has the political/philosophical lyrics). John Smith ties with Gruf.

lyrically mcenroe closer to the bottom of my list at p & c, but he does all the beats so you gotta give him credit. Rhymewise it'd have to go like this:

Gruf
Pip Skid
Birdapres
John Smith (still havent found any of his solo stuff or the park-like setting albums, just goin off what i heard from guest appearances and what not so i dunno, I've heard good things but havent been blown away yet)
mcenroe
Yy (not really feelin this guy, havent listened to his whole EP yet tho)

I'd go with
1. John Smith (you have to listen to his solo and PLS stuff)
2. Pip Skid (not to keen on his voice but his lyrics never fail)
3. mcenroe (his flow isnt great but lyrically he is always on point)
4. Gruf (havent heard alot from him but liked his style straight away)
5. Birdapres and Yy (havent heard much from them so i cant really judge).

mcenroe to me seems to have a really minimalist style of producing, he doesnt put too much shit in his tracks and keeps them pretty simple. He just does it incredibly well, some of his beats on the PLS album are amazing.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Well I was at Best Buy today and got The Unseen Delux Edition for 12.99... Seems like a really good deal for 2 discs... Comes with the original version and the instrumental version.

Yay! No doubt you'll enjoy it. Impossible to name my faves on that album. Just listen to it. 😉

Jesus this thread has almost slipped off the first page. 🙁
Here are some John Smith tracks for you to enjoy. The first ones from Blunderbus and the others are from the PLS album.

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34IKL1KTEEV6H0BEIYRRDA4ZI4

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3AVFHG9RBTBET2ARMSF16VABU8

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=33SI1U61NV99T1PHRMTGHQ03XU

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=18D48F459AH3K2U1YB558T6FFW

cant let this thread die 🙁

Too much good hip hop to talk about.

Originally posted by Dr. Octagon
cant let this thread die 🙁

Nope. Hopefully the next generation will talk about good hip hop also

there's a sole and sage francis concert this week...i dont think im gonna go. i think Sage is dope, but i really think Sole is overrated and boring at times.

Have you ever been to any hip hop shows Dr (or anyone for that matter)?

Originally posted by koolruningz
Have you ever been to any hip hop shows Dr (or anyone for that matter)?

no cuz i dont want to go alone. my friends all like mainstream stuff. we could have gone to a Redman and Methodman concert last year in Nov, but they didn't want to. So we decided to go to Bone Thugs in Dec of last year, but something came up for one of my friends, so we never went.

🙁

im dying to go to a Masta Ace concert, or The Roots or MF Doom.

What do your friends think about underground hip hop and how bad is the mainstream you refer to, are we talking Nelly and 50?

Even though it's pretty mainstream - AND Mariah Carey guests on one track ARGH!) - the new Twista joint ain't bad. I like the speed of his flow...yo.

Cant say i've heard of him.

Originally posted by koolruningz
What do your friends think about underground hip hop and how bad is the mainstream you refer to, are we talking Nelly and 50?

i got friends that listen to 50 cent to Kanye West to Young Jeezy

then i have friends that listen to Immortal Tech to Common to Wu Tang Clan

then i have friends that listen to Anticon (i can only stand Sage and Buck 65 and their no longer members)