Originally posted by P, that Dude
your credibility just plummetted to an all time low
I've questioned your credibility before and you went mad at me for it, why are you doing the same?
If you don't want to view HH as credible anymore that's your business, but you don't like it when it's done to you.
-AC
Originally posted by P, that Dudei dont understand why you saying such things...
okaaayyour credibility just plummetted to an all time low
have you even listened to Aceyalone?
The Book of Human Language
All Balls Dont Bounce
Accepted Eclectic
Love & Hate
the material he has put out with Haiku D'Etat
the material he put out with RJD2
the material he has put out with Freestyle Fellowship
the material he has put out with the entire Project Blowed team
etc...
Originally posted by -hh-
i dont understand why you saying such things...have you even listened to Aceyalone?
The Book of Human Language
All Balls Dont Bounce
Accepted Eclectic
Love & Hatethe material he has put out with Haiku D'Etat
the material he put out with RJD2
the material he has put out with Freestyle Fellowship
the material he has put out with the entire Project Blowed team
etc...
LMAAAAOOOO!!!
im just f*ckin wit u!!! shit is getting boring here!
i still disagree with the monch and aceyalone comment tho... and always will be
Originally posted by -hh-
😐i really dont believe u were joking...
anyway...
quality > quantity
monch is a verbal beast on the mic
smh... i was only joking about the credibility line the rest of the shit i mean it
internal affairs wasnt that good... damn... pass me that joint, son
that's some strong shit
ghost > monch
jay-z > monch
scarface > monch
half of the wu > monch
aries spears on some crazy shit :
Originally posted by P, that Dude
smh... i was only joking about the credibility line the rest of the shit i mean itinternal affairs wasnt that good... damn... pass me that joint, son
that's some strong shit
ghost > monch
jay-z > monch
scarface > monch
half of the wu > monch
you're just ">" "<" random mc's with monch.
if ur gonna start a debate, at least tell me why you think those mc's are better.
f*ck that...
have you said anything that makes monch a top 2 mc? nope
but for the sake of argument imma go and post my reasons
ghost has 2 classic albums, 1 very good album, 2 good mixtapes and 2 average albums
played a major role in 2 top 10 albums... ob4cl & enter the wu
one of the illest flows of all time... one of the best lyricists of all times... highly respected since day one
apollo kids...
one...
nutmeg...
can it be all so simple....
verbal intercourse...
must i go on???
Originally posted by P, that Dude
have you said anything that makes monch a top 2 mc? nope
You're acting like he has to prove it to you. Stop being so stupid.
Acting like HH has to prove that Monch is top two, is silly. He's not saying he is for you, he's saying he is for him.
What part of that is getting lost in translation?
Originally posted by P, that Dude
ghost has 2 classic albums, 1 very good album, 2 good mixtapes and 2 average albums
Your opinion. I can counter that simply by disagreeing.
Originally posted by P, that Dude
Played a major role in 2 top 10 albums... ob4cl & enter the wu
It's your opinion that they're top 10, it's your opinion he played a major role. I can once again counter by disagreeing.
Originally posted by P, that Dude
one of the illest flows of all time... one of the best lyricists of all times... highly respected since day one
Again, I can counter that by disagreeing. Why? Because it's your opinion, though to add to that: One of the most annoying voices of all time.
-AC
Originally posted by P, that Dude
f*ck that...have you said anything that makes monch a top 2 mc? nope
but for the sake of argument imma go and post my reasons
ghost has 2 classic albums, 1 very good album, 2 good mixtapes and 2 average albums
played a major role in 2 top 10 albums... ob4cl & enter the wu
one of the illest flows of all time... one of the best lyricists of all times... highly respected since day one
apollo kids...
one...
nutmeg...
can it be all so simple....
verbal intercourse...
must i go on???
I dunno. To me Ghost just rhymes brilliantly but he never really makes sense most of the time.
Example:
Scooby snack, Jurassic, plastic gats, booby traps,
10 years working for me, you wanna tap shit?,
bong bong bong, your bell rung rung rung,
Staple lands where the ambulance don't come, Yea!
I know Staple is "Stapleton, NY" his home city but make sense at least. He's a nasty rhyme sayer verbally but ideally there's no content sometimes, most of the time.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I dunno. To me Ghost just rhymes brilliantly but he never really makes sense most of the time.Example:
Scooby snack, Jurassic, plastic gats, booby traps,
10 years working for me, you wanna tap shit?,
bong bong bong, your bell rung rung rung,
Staple lands where the ambulance don't come, Yea!I know Staple is "Stapleton, NY" his home city but make sense at least. He's a nasty rhyme sayer verbally but ideally there's no content sometimes, most of the time.
actually i saw a good explanation of nutmeg somewhere, let me find that one for you
Originally posted by P, that Dude
f*ck that...have you said anything that makes monch a top 2 mc? nope
but for the sake of argument imma go and post my reasons
ghost has 2 classic albums, 1 very good album, 2 good mixtapes and 2 average albums
played a major role in 2 top 10 albums... ob4cl & enter the wu
one of the illest flows of all time... one of the best lyricists of all times... highly respected since day one
apollo kids...
one...
nutmeg...
can it be all so simple....
verbal intercourse...
must i go on???
ok here my perspective on why Monch deserves the high status...this is strictly my opinion, but i woulnd't mind getting feedback for those that agree or disagree.
Monch:
Description of an mc:
He has a diverse flow, he switches time to time. His voice is incredible (once again this is all opinion). His lyrics are without a doubt one of the best to ever come out of the hip hop genre. He uses every possible form of English literature to get his message across to the listener. He is also diverse when it comes to topics...he talks about God, then goes on to talk about growing up as a Christian...then goes on talking about the War in Iraq...then he just makes a club song...and not to forget to mention...all these have been sick.
Discography:
The Organized Konfusion albums are without a doubt amazing. The group, although aren't working right now, are easily one of the best groups ever. Very underrated.
Internal Affairs was great as well. It's far from a classic, but thats because the production wasn't great. Lyrically Monch in my opinion has never failed, even when he released 'Simon Says'.
It's mainly due to the material he has released with Organized Konfusion...Not to discredit Prince Po...but let's be serious...Monch almost always outshined him on nearly every track.
his lyrics are incredible:
"**** the trinity inseminate the earth now, take its virginity
In my vicinity rap is like energy pack
Sending me back behind enemy line to rap too melodic
Melodies never melodramatic but hipmatic like Jell-O fo fellow fanatics
I fiend for, who **** WITS, inappropriate
Fill em with so much lead I'll call
(M.O.P): BERGER AND ASSOCIATES
This rhyme, will remain in the minds of my foes forever in infamy
The epitome of lyrical epiphanies
Skillfully placed home we carefully plan symphonies
Who would be ignorant enough to have the audacity
to **** wit the likes of I and my tenacity?"
incredible flow^
Truth had me up against the ropes
and semi-concious without no boxing skills
Fear of it makes hair on my neck grow like minoxodil
Watchin the clock is ill when, faced wit the truth
Parallels observing, amateur video tapes of
Twenty-one top notch NYPD cops get ill
Fill they minds not to kill still son, never revealed
True feelings, we speakin on the truth right now in itself is healing
See The Creator, created existence and balance
At right angles, unless it was conceived and stated
So whoever shall stray away from right lives wrong
let the truth be told^ knowledge
"And I know you will see the light
Baby, once you
understand, what you
mean, to me, darling.."
he can sing^ 👆
i'll add more later
lmao @ internal affairs having weak production.
face it hh, the weakness of IA is the lyricism because its not consistent, some joints are hard as **** some joints ehhh... and one song is just wrong...
"He has a diverse flow, he switches time to time. His voice is incredible (once again this is all opinion). His lyrics are without a doubt one of the best to ever come out of the hip hop genre."
you know how many mcs fit this description? shit... you know how many issues nas touched on the lost tapes? mobb deep on infamous? cube on amw?
"his lyrics are incredible"
tons of mcs have incredible lyrics... the question is can that rapper continue making incredible lyrics. i seriously believe that any mc
can produce a good/classic album at least once in his career, just look at cam... confessions of fire is good (anybody who says otherwise is a hater) but can he maintain it? no. or eminem, if he had died (God forbid) after dropping MMLP, im sure people would have him on their top 5 lists like big, pun and L. but he didnt, so he continued doing his shit... started falling off, DROPPED the eminem show... and now he's irrelevant.
dont get me wrong i like pharoah... but he hasnt produced enough material to be ranked fairly... unlike big,pun and L he is able to produce more songs if he like, but didnt... so how can you say he's better than mcs who consistently drop good lps? feels like i asked this shit before... smh
but i heard that he's about to drop an album... so we'll see
Originally posted by P, that Dude
*smiles*why? because he knows a bunch of underground mcs names?
No, because he knows his shit. You continually acting as if he has to prove to you why he prefers something, acting as if he's wrong and such, is dumb.
Why continue to do it? Why continue to ask him why he thinks it? He's told you why, in depth. Take it or leave it. It's pure preference.
-AC